Biden Administration Set to Launch COVID Passport That Would Track Americans Who Have Taken Vaccine

This is, of course, all it is.

If I want to get on a plane, I'm going to choose the airline that participates in this program. Who wants to fly sitting next to unvaccinated people? Same thing if I decide to go see the Warriors play, or attend a Tedeschi Trucks Band concert, or want to check out the Nugget Comedy Club. I'll spend my money with businesses that can guarantee the guy hacking up phlegm sitting next to me has been vaccinated.

I'm really not getting the opposition to this. It's a great idea, and will speed up the economic recovery. The extreme rightists have been complaining about the "closed" economy for a year, and now that Biden is implementing a program to facilitate this, they're suddenly against opening the economy. It's truly a sight to behold. I'm done arguing with them.

The only people who would logically oppose this is anti-vaxxers, but the OP says he got his vaccinations, so I'm not getting it. The "papers please" argument is a bad joke.

 

As I noted above I had to show an ID, you know an oppressive ID, to get my vaccine and my certified CDC vaccination card. How is the federal government going to provide something better? What about all the people who can't get a voter ID how would they get one?

 

Employers, TCA and others are asking for an official and reasonably secure document.

And, your little paper CDC card is NOT that.

Plus, your CDC card is just as much governmnet info as a COVID passport would be - EXCEPT for security.

You are just partisan bellyaching.

 

From the very beginning when they first started shots in December everyone who received shots received a card showing they had received first shot and scheduling second shot and the vaccine maker of your shots, this in effect is a vaccine passport.

 

I hand my vaccination card to the prospective employer. They scan it. After the interview they look at the location it was given and they call to verify? Have to check the HIPAA regulations or in violation then Congress could pass legislation exempting that information from HIPAA. We certify vaccinations for other diseases in international travel what would be different here?

 

Absolutely.

Also, if you are traveling back fro a foreign country, the US wants to know your status.

And, the same goes for other countries that want to know the status of travelers from the US.

And, businesses need to prevent outbreaks that could impact their business. Besides not wanting to hire or contract for services from the ranks of the unvaccinated, they may also want to keep special protection from current staff who are not vaccinated.

And, the current CDC card form is absolutely NOT secure.

 

Well yes it is. I had to show a photo ID to a person who is authorized to issue it to me on behalf of the CDC. It is a FEDERAL DOCUMENT. What more do you want to ad to it a photo?

 

I was told that is what it is get it laminated or take a picture and keep on your phone, don't lose it. Mine is filed away and carried electronically across all my devices. Like my auto insurance cards.

 

Who, whom, or what is forcing your choices. ? To wear or not wear a mask is by definition a binary decision, and since you have free will on that decision, your complaint is invalid.

 

It's all in the OP. If one person reads only the snippets presented, and another reads only the OP's comments, they will come away having the exact opposite argument. It's a confusing argument because the OP's source doesn't support the OP's conclusion.

“Our role is to help ensure that any solutions in this area should be simple, free, open source, accessible to people both digitally and on paper, and designed from the start to protect people’s privacy,”

What's wrong with that? It's the 21st century. All this does is make the information instantly accessible. You know, like when cops went from looking up paper records to phoning the NCIC.

“The effort has gained momentum amid President Biden’s pledge that the nation will start to regain normalcy this summer and with a growing number of companies — from cruise lines to sports teams — saying they will require proof of vaccination before opening their doors again,” the report continued.

Cruise lines and sports teams. Liquor and grocery stores won't be asking. Smh.

 

You could have written in your second dose with NO PROBLEM.

Also, such paper documents are easy targets for tampering.

The government does know how to make documents that are FAR more secure.



Your ID issue may be part of a problem that you can read about. Those in poorer areas aren't being vaccinated at an equal rate. I don't know how much of the problem is related to ID. But, when people think they are going to need ID and they don't have standard ID, that is an inhibitor.

Let's remember that healthcare is ABSOLUTELY NOT a right in the USA.

 

Ron DeSantis tells Biden to pound sand. This is the difference between freedom and papers please liberals.

 

A card like that is NOT a secure document.

Not even slightly.

 

If there is proof that that card and the vaccine shots it records were issued to the carrier, why is that not just as official as a vaccine passport??

 

Yes. I have such a card, due to being vaccinated.

BUT, that card is absolutely NOT secure in any way.

Even without changing any of the words on the card, I could have written in my second vaccine with absolutely no problem.

A secure card could prevent easy modification and it could be in a form where photocopies are obviously not acceptable.

 

TOTALITARIAN COCKSWADDLE: GOP lawmakers slam ‘vaccine passports’ being considered by Biden admin.

You would need a vaccine certificate to go into a store, but we it's "racist" to show ID to vote?

Republicans go to bat for Freedom and Liberty:

Gov. DeSantis to take executive emergency action against vaccine passports.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis will take emergency executive action against the concept of Americans needing a vaccine passport to be able to travel domestically.

 

You must live in a red state.
I didn't need any drivers license to get mine.

 

It is an official document. That's not the issue.

Outside of security, which businesses will demand, this is geared toward the economy, not public health. The standard CDC cards were adequate until we experienced a pandemic. To me, it looks like a program to modernize our system, while providing secure vaccination info to businesses that need that information in a timely and cost-free manner.

 

Do you need a vaccine to enter a store now? Are there any stores going broke because they can't pack customers in shoulder to shoulder? Paranoid conspiratorial victimhood nonsense. Not surprising.

 

This is abject BS.

There are two different issues. One is whether you can carry a secure id that shows you are vaccinated.

The other has to do with the policy questions about who would look at it.

Those are two different discussions, as there IS justification for a reasonably secure document simply based on issues of international travel.

What De Santis is complaining about is just one possible policy decision - NOT whether there is substantial enough need for the existence of that kind of document.

Republicans go to bat for stuff like "freedom from a COVID passport" and their right to be superspreaders, killing other Americans.

They IGNORE issues like healthcare, which enables people to LIVE.

My own view is that being alive is one of the first steps in having "freedom".

 

How did they check if you were eligible?

I guess we red states have a better organization than the blue one but the blue ones could follow our lead and your vaccination card would suffice for your "passport".

 

They ask me.

 

The CDC vaccination card is not even SLIGHTLY secure.

 

It is a government document and anyone who falsely fills one out would face federal penalties. How do you propose to make a secure ID and what about people who cannot get ID's.

 

You did not have to show any proof? Yea I guess we do run ours better.