Biden Administration Set to Launch COVID Passport That Would Track Americans Who Have Taken Vaccine

The idea of failing to defend the USA against this invasion hits me as grossly irresponsible. These viruses are coming in from other countries ans spread across the US killing HUGE numbers of people - more than in wars!!

And, corporations ARE taking action today.

They can't afford to have their business impacted by something as avoidable as employees getting COVID.

 

I have voted for YEARS without showing ANY ID. And, so have people in a good number of other states.

Vote by mail is the ONLY way one can vote here. For years, it has worked and is secure.

This whole ID thing is an assault on democracy. There is NO other explanation for it.

Vote by mail is FAR more secure against assault, it allows more citizens to vote, it's cheaper.

The reason Republicans hate it is that they DO NOT SUPPORT equal democracy for all US citizens.

 

Security is ALWAYS an issue of gradation. It is NEVER absolute.

I stronly doubt that the security for a COVID passport has to be as secure as ID for banking.

And, I vote without showing ANY ID, because I'm a registered voter. Like with bank checks, I sign my ballot.

 

In past wars the government would come and get you if you left your HOUSE LIGHTS on, let alone if some business were making mistakes considered that werious.

AND, you are just plain wrong about how it would be used. All the passport would do is to make it harder to break policy decisions made by government.

It does NOT mean you couldn't go into a store. You can go into a store TODAY,.

And, the reason is that our policy says that.

Corporations absolutely ARE enforcing corporate policy on COVID.

The catch is that they don't have validated information concerning who needs additional protection on the job.

We've had more than half a MILLION citizens die and you say something like THAT???

Whatever we did, we ABSOLUTELY needed to do more.

The passport would be something that businesses could use.

But, that is NOT what your argument has been.

And, policy decisions concerning entry into America, etc. are very serious issues.

That's how we're getting viruses that are more communicable and otherwise likely to be more dangerous, given the strains that are developing in parts of the world where WE help ensure that vaccines are NOT available.

 

This is just plain false.

Those who have problems are absolutely NOT limited to racial minorities.

It involves hourly workers, those lilving in more remote locations where states have removed access to state approved ID, to those who don't have easy transportation options (such as public transit or cars), to those who are minimally ambulatory, etc.

I'd point out that the GOP doesn't just want fewer minorities to vote - they strive to exclude a broad demographic that they believe might not vote for them.

Since the GOP has NO policy ideas to sell, all they are left is making it harder for people to vote.

 

Absolutely correct, yet Trump was the "fascist dictator"

It's always baby steps as freedom is slowly stripped by petty tyrants.

 

It's so pathetic. They have to prove who they are to get on WELFARE, but they bitch about having to prove who they are in order to VOTE.

And, we're going to let them get away with this, because, after all, we're told that they're "people-of-color", and it's supposedly all too difficult for these poor downtrodden, put-upon 'victims' to pull it together enough to register properly to vote...(?). Bullshit!

 

Then your OFFICAL CDC card should suffice anyway the Biden administration had to backtrack. Did you show an ID when you registered and are you talking about mail in voting? I had to show an ID when I got vaccinated.

 

You and I may as well be from different planets.

 

Which grocery stores are doing this? Do you think ALL grocery stores will do this?

 

Yes I vote by mail. That's the ONLY way one can vote in my state.

Everybody registers to vote with ID in all our states.

That includes every state that has same day registration.

 

When voter ID changes, they have to REprove who they are - after the GOP has removed literally dozens of state run sites that administer ID.

No, it is NOT just "people of color".

And, there has been ZERO evidence of a reason for this - other than the assault on voting rights that the GOP is using to swing elections they would otherwise lose.

If GOP candidates can not appeal to their constituancies, they should work on policy, NOT on attacking democracy.

 

This whole thing does argue for a National ID after all. I've never been thrilled about that idea, but now it is probably the only thing that makes sense. All American citizens would have to get one and keep one with them at all times -- period!

A National ID would be EVERYTHING: Driver's license, Social Security, personal tax ID, government welfare, government healthcare, voter ID -- EVERYTHING. Make it as hack-proof as humanly possible, and then make the penalty for anyone, of any color, caught generating any FAKE ID's the death penalty... zero-tolerance, no mercy, no bullshit....

OH, but, well, that could never happen while we have a bunch of sob-sister, radical Democrats running things, so -- we're right back where we started.

 

I haven't gone through this entire thread, but I'm guessing the people who want mandatory vaccine cards are against IDs for voting. Am I right or wrong on this?

 

There has been NO reason given for national ID.

And, I am absolutely astonished at the number of right wing idiots who are all concerned about COVID ID for helping reduce a deadly assault on America, but want national ID for no reason whatsoever.

How about spending some money to SUPPORT democracy?

After all, we stand for democracy, not national ID.

 

I'm not a big fan of a national ID but at least it would make a real citizen prove his identity before he gets to vote!

It would eliminate all this bitching and moaning by the lib-Left that anybody is making it so dreadfully hard for minorities to vote just because they are "people of color" and all that horsecrap....

Funny how they have no difficulty signing themselves up for government welfare handouts, but properly registering to vote is just such an unfair, stressed-out AGONY!

 

Every state already does that.

LOL - the repeated switching of ID and the efforts to make ID harder to acquire are the issues here.

And, look at the OP. It's the right wing that whines about the OP topic.

Oh sure, really hilarious.

There are large numbers who are not receiving aid purely because of the difficulty in dealing with issues of ID, official paperwork and other requirements.

Your laughter at that is a sad sign.

 

If, for instance, you got a driver's license ten years ago, is it more difficult to get a driver's license today?

Unless you've accumulated a really bad driving record, it shouldn't be one bit harder today!

Are you saying that "people of color" are all really such terrible drivers, or what...?

 

Yes, it is harder. In Georgia, yes it is more difficult today for those living in certain regions of the state where the state closed many dozens of DL locations.


This has NOTHING to do with driving record, as non-driving state ID is obtained at the same location.

This is not only an issue of racism, as it affects other specific demographics as well - it is not limited to race based discrimination. The GOP targeted specific regions that they hate, because of the voting record in those regions.

Rather than to propose policy that would attract voters, they decided to just make it harder for them to vote, thereby affecting election outcomes without having to actually care about the voters.

GOP lawyers have admitted before the supreme court that their new laws would further disenfranchise specific demographics such as non-whites.

 

If the State of Georgia has closed "dozens" of DL-issuing locations so that it's a big pain to get, or to renew a DL then that is flat wrong! I went to their website and count 20 DL offices, but nearly all of them are clustered in and very close to Atlanta. It was surprising to see how few there are in southern and southeastern Georgia.

The good news is that once you get it, a Georgia Driver's License is valid for EIGHT years... (three years longer than here in Colorado). And the cost of that Georgia license is $32, which breaks down to $4 per year. I'd call that a bargain, quite honestly.

 

- I really like that you took a look. However, its a little more complicated in that, as one has to consider population density and the characteristics of the regions where dozens of ID sites have been removed.

- my undersanding is that the issue with ID is that Georgia is changing what is required. This includes registeration. They are also restricting voting hours, making substantially more difficult to vote by mail, determining to eliminate ballots that are mailed days in advance of the deadline (due to "expected" mail delivery delays the GOP has planned), etc.

The assaullt on our demoracy isn't quite as blatant as I think your description implies, though your issues have been real and still may be part of what is being done today.

 

Only matters if the shooter is white and victim is black

 

I think that Biden should first learn to track his own memory.

 

Odd how libs aren't whining about this putting minorities at a disadvantage.

 

Just curious but what's your take on ID's for firearm purchases? ... many 2A supporters are against it ...