Biden to nominate a black woman to the USSC

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  1. Condor060

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    You can assume what ever you want. I made the statement that instead of selection by competency, meaning by their own record for the position, they are being chosen by race, without even knowing who the candidates are.
     
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    Once again, for what reason are we to believe that they are not being chosen by their own record or their competency? Literally the only thing we know about this person is that they will be a black woman. That doesn't mean they won't be picked based on their record or their competency, it just means that they're going to be a black woman.

    This isn't an assumption, it's a pretty valid question, what information do we have to believe that this person will not be picked based on competency, other than the fact that we know it's going to be a black woman? if there is another reason, then by all means name it
     
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    I am not claiming no competent black woman exist. What I am saying is the federal government doesn't seem to play by the same rules they require everyone else to play by and its just accepted.
     
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    Part of the job of being on the staff of the President is to have a list of potential SC Justices from day one - cause you never know when that list will be needed. So
    claiming they didn't know who was a potential candidate is not true.
     
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    And if we are going down this road, are black women the only people competent enough for the job? Are black women the only selection that can rule on black agendas properly?
    Since the answer to those is no, then it becomes obvious why?
    We are making decisions on positions by race to pander to those races.
     
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    1: I didn't say "they" I said Biden.
    2: That someone has a list that was purposefully made to exclude anyone based on race is racism. And if acted upon a violation of AA laws.
     
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    so you know for 100% fact she was lying? really?
     
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    Her best friend said she was.
    All her witnesses said she was
    Her own father said she was
    So yeah, she was lying
     
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    Of course not, but it's not unusual or immoral when you're putting together a team of people who work together to go for people who come from a variety of backgrounds. The private sector does it all the time, so I'm not sure what you're going on about when you say the feds are playing by different rules.
     
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    Why not just select a Black Woman without mentioning the black woman selection process?
    Because for Biden, its more important to play the race card then to allow whom ever he selected feel like they were the top selection of all qualifications of all possible candidates.

    Instead Biden just opened the door for, well, you were the best of the black women.
     
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    what a crappy thing to do and even if he wants to do this, why say it? Why not say "i'm gonna get the best person for the job" and if that person is a black woman (or biden wants it to be), then fine! But why come out and say you are going to chose a person based on gender/color...isn't that racist?
     
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    Reagan said he would nominate a woman. So did Trump.

    You guys said nothing.
     
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    So hiring a black woman is playing the race card now?

    Would the fact that 117 out of the 120 supreme court justices in our entire history have been white also be playing the race card?
     
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    President nominates, and Senate vets qualifications. That's how it works
     
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    If MLK was a monster what were the 2 men who lynched Emmitt Till? What was the man who placed the bomb in the 16th St Baptist Church, killing 4 little girls? What was Bull Connor, the sheriff who ordered water hoses and dogs on peaceful civil rights protesters?
    MLK was a saint compared to these MONSTERS.
     
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    I hope that 10 years from now we can all look back on this time and ask ourselves "What was the big deal?"
    And the answer will be "No big deal". I'm sure whoever the first African-American female SC is, will be just fine.
    Just like Thurgood Marshall was fine as the first African-American male SC justice. (There were people who didn't want to see him get that job. Wonder why?)
    Just like Sandra Day O'Connor was fine as the first female SC justice.
     
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    Biden to nominate a black woman to the USSC

    If he were to nominate a black woman for the court, nobody would think anything of it. By announcing that he would limit the nomination to a black woman makes it racist and divisive. He should have kept his mouth shut and simply nominated whom we wanted to nominate. He would do well to keep his mouth shut a lot more. That is a lesson he should have learned from his predecessor's behavior.
     
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    Taking my claim out of context isn't making your point. It just means you have no point.

    It funny how if you claimed you were only hiring white people how the racist card would play out.
     
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    According the this ABC poll, an overwhelming majority of Americans want Biden to give up on his racism by eliminating 94% of the population and simply pick the best candidate.

     
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    if Biden nominated a black woman, malcontent bigots on the Right would yell and scream that she was picked JUST due to her color and gender. It happens ALL the time. ANY time a black person or woman is picked for an important job, the RIGHT yells that they were a less-qualified person picked solely for reasons of Identity Politics. Its their spiel.
     
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    Thanks for the opinion. I assume then, if he were to nominate a white man, the left would go ballistic. Fair enough?
     
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    Its not an opinion. Its an accurate observation of decades of politics. ANYTIME a black or Hispanic or Asian or woman is picked for an important job, many folks on the Right yell & scream "affirmative action!!!!". In their minds, a non-white female could NEVER be the best candidate for the job, in North America, Europe or Australiasia.
     
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    You just proved it is opinion. You said "many folks on the right." Since you don't know how many it is an opinion. That's OK. My posts are opinions as well. Virtually every post on this site is mostly opinion.
     
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    No not really, the concept at practice here is when establishing a team of people who work together, that it is beneficially to have a variety of people from different backgrounds, and that this better represents the variety of people who live in this country. As is now, all but 2 people in the supreme court are white, so if you were looking to only hire white people that would represent something else
     
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    No, racism is racism regardless of the races involved. I disagree that it is beneficial to have people from different backgrounds. It is actually not in the least bit important and goes against basic human nature which indicates people prefer to be around their own kind.

    The supreme court doesn't represent people. It represents the constitution to the rest of the judicial system. That you care about the a racial makeup of the court is simply racist. You should be concerned about the competence of the justices not the color of their skin. We spent decades trying to get past racism. Why must we revert to it? Your comments make you racist and Biden's candidate filter makes him one. He can choose whomever he wants as a nominee. There is no need to add gender and skin color to it. It is racist.
     

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