Black man dies after video shows officer kneeling on neck

Are there organised anti fascist gangs?
If they march chanting death to nazis I would not join them, but feel they had the liberty to chant, if they started fires I would try to put them out.
However if in those circumstances, if asked and I said I was an anti fascist person, would I be a terrorist?
I think the term 'members of a group' is the tricky part.
I fully understand that unless a crime has been committed a person can't be prosecuted, because those two things are obviously linked.

 

According to City of Minneapolis "Use of Force" Ordinances, (which are typically recommended by the Chief of Police and codified by a vote from the city mayor and council) use of neck restraints by an officer's arm or leg is acceptable use of force. That's archaic, and most cities ceased neck restraint by legs (knees) years ago. The leaves the Police Chief and the mayor with some culpability for training these officers in obsolete methods.

http://www.minneapolismn.gov/police/policy/mpdpolicy_5-300_5-300

5-311 USE OF NECK RESTRAINTS AND CHOKE HOLDS (10/16/02) (08/17/07) (10/01/10) (04/16/12)

DEFINITIONS I.

Choke Hold: Deadly force option. Defined as applying direct pressure on a person’s trachea or airway (front of the neck), blocking or obstructing the airway (04/16/12)

Neck Restraint: Non-deadly force option. Defined as compressing one or both sides of a person’s neck with an arm or leg, without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway (front of the neck). Only sworn employees who have received training from the MPD Training Unit are authorized to use neck restraints. The MPD authorizes two types of neck restraints: Conscious Neck Restraint and Unconscious Neck Restraint. (04/16/12)

Conscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with intent to control, and not to render the subject unconscious, by only applying light to moderate pressure. (04/16/12)

Unconscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with the intention of rendering the person unconscious by applying adequate pressure. (04/16/12)

PROCEDURES/REGULATIONS II.

1. The Conscious Neck Restraint may be used against a subject who is actively resisting. (04/16/12)
2. The Unconscious Neck Restraint shall only be applied in the following circumstances: (04/16/12)
   1. On a subject who is exhibiting active aggression, or;
   2. For life saving purposes, or;
   3. On a subject who is exhibiting active resistance in order to gain control of the subject; and if lesser attempts at control have been or would likely be ineffective.
3. Neck restraints shall not be used against subjects who are passively resisting as defined by policy. (04/16/12)

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Having said that, the officers broke the "Use of Force" Codes by not ceasing to use force after Floyd was no longer any threat to himself or others.

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5-303.01 DUTY TO INTERVENE (07/28/16)
(A-D)
A. Sworn employees have an obligation to protect the public and other employees.
B. It shall be the duty of every sworn employee present at any scene where physical force is being applied to either stop or attempt to stop another sworn employee when force is being inappropriately applied or is no longer required.

 

If you set someone's house on fire, acting alone, you'll be charge with arson.

If you set someone's house on fire, and are connected with a "domestic terrorism" group, you'll be charged with arson and domestic terrorism.

Are there organized anti fascist gangs? You tell me....

 

If as a lone individual I set a house on fire, but when questioned said I was generally against fascists, would it be a terrorist crime or a straightforward act of arson?
I am unfamiliar with those photographs. Are they taken in America, and what do the symbols mean?

 

Antifa is global.

 

Not pictures taken in America? Am I right?

 

Will this lead to more protests:

 

No, you're not right. Antifa groups are found mostly the "tolerant" liberal cities in the U.S.

 

You misunderstand my question I think. You posted a series of photographs plus a cartoon above. I asked if those photographs were taken in America.
Were they?
Forgive me.
One is taken near a sign with Columbia on it I see now, I am confused by the one in German.
I really can't believe that American cities can be defined as liberal or not liberal. Cities are big places and there is likely to be a mixture of people in each.

 

You've lost me....so how they proceeded and the actions they took succeeded in keeping him from harm? Is that what you are saying??

 

Sooo.... NYC Governor Cuomo says he understands Trump's "political" standpoint of being Mr. Law & Order. Cuomo says that Mayor Di Blasio totally screwed up response to NYC riots and did not utilize NYPD's 38,000 police officers effectively. Di Blasio says he does not need the National Guard. Cuomo says that he, as Governor, could displace Di Blasio and order the National Guard to respond and stop the NYC riots. But he won't.

Cuomo doesn't want to step on Bill Di Blasio's toes or hurt his little feelers, so he'll let the mayor continue as he wishes. These Democrat liberals are so united and politically correct, that their cities are burning to the ground.

 

All YOUR - moaning, groaning and whining - for the terrible Injustice done those
poor Yellow Piggies. Constraining - a handcuffed man,- that YOU yourself would
have it, that he was supposedly having a Heart Attack. So YOUR BRUTE Swine
further constrain his breathing by squashing the weight of a grown man on his Neck,
....................................................................................................................for 8 or 9 minutes until he's DEAD.


How ridiculously shallow & disingenuous, YOUR protests seem in light of those FACTs.
.......... Looking in the mirror how do YOU restrain from choking, when attempting to defend
................................. such an obscene Atrocity ? Just curious - YOUR NOT one of those
...... ...................................................................................................................................... Good Cops are YOU ?

Now YOU talk of Cops being Lynched in a Figurative Sense. Well News to YOUR Blue Line Brothers !
If theses THUGS don't wise up soon, they should not be surprised when they find themselves decorating
.................................................................................................................................................................................................... Lamp Posts
.

 

Probably inevitable coming from the police union:

 

So much for your "Why are you ignoring the information from the ME and making up what it actually says?". Even the autopsy by the cops say he died because he was being restricted. And I dunno why you're crying your little eyes about cops. They are starting it,... again and again. Massive amounts of material around now about protesters with their hands in the air being viciously attacked by cops. Over a 100 people of the press have been attacked as well. The cops in the US really are predominantly racist and an exceptionally violent breed. A family with a cop in it... has a 4 times higher change of getting domestic violence. I doubt you get it.

 

I was floored when it was over. It was a "is that all there is" moment. He watched the video and disagrees with the ME because of what we see in the video. Tell that to the jury.

 

Paramedics never made it Floyd was dead in 7 to 8 minutes, The officer didn't let up at all. How do you explain it?

 

I was being sarcastic.

 

The ME (we now have the preliminary report) and Dr. Baden agree 100% on cause of death. The cause is 100% the pressure on neck and back by the cops.

 

Most everyone here acknowledges it was death by a bad cop. In that, we are united. So who sews the discord? Who makes it a racial matter? Figure that out and you have the antagonists!

 

The issue is police brutality and the corruption in the system to protect these cops that openly assault people. That disproportionately affect the black citizens of this country.

Who sews the discord? The white nationalists who want to protect the system.

 

These nationwide protests for the death of George Floyd had gained attention of us all. President Trump tried to get the National Guard to stop these protesters using tear gas of all things. It's not right to ise tear gas on these demonstrators. These demonstrators want justice for George Floyd. is that too much to ask? The incident of Trump carrying a bible to a church is the most ridiculous thing I've seen Trump do. That just shows how demented and insane Trump really is. What is going on here?
A petition was issued to arrest and convice Derek Chauvin and is other mates;
No need to explain, everyone has seen the video of George Floyd being MURDERED by Derek Chauvin, Thomas Lane, and J. Alexander Kueng while Tou Thao stood by and let it happen!
BEING FIRED IS NOT ENOUGH!!!!
These four “men” need to be arrested and charged with MURDER!!
We need to stand together and bring justice to not only Mr. Floyd... but his whole family, friends ,and more importantly his children.
Sign and share this petition so Derek Chauvin, Thomas Lane, Tou Thao and J. Alexander Kueng are put where they belong!
I'd stand with the protesters in spirit hoping justice will be served.

 

Yeah right.

 

Here again.....conquer and divide. I am a Nationalist that happens to be white. There is room in that camp for ALL colors. You got a problem with that? I think you most certainly do! Color seems to be of utmost importance to you. It is to most leftists. The division is their base.

 

You don't seem to really want justice. You want a verdict! And you want your verdict now!! I can't imagine how so many have nothing better to do than to go down town and be part of a crowd. A crowd that has facilitated so much violence and destruction. There IS a crowd that is working to build America.

 

Go back and read a few of my posts.