Bolton doesn't matter! Time to wrap this up!!

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  1. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Plus,and this is important.The Dems have really went and done it this time.
    Overplayed their hand.For years the democrats { ALL Democrats } talked about
    Bolton as if some monster.A really bad person.The best Friend a Neo-con
    could ever dream of.Now of course they are forced to beg for his assistance.
    The GOP can make much of this.Really score points on how Democrats play
    politics.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We need to find out who was with Bolton when Trump said these
    quid pro quo things.Anyone else in the room.
    Plus we don't even have direct quotes.Just leaked material
    from a leaked manuscript.Plus who leaked the Manuscript.It went to
    the NSC.Not the White House.It was supposed to clear the NSC and then
    to the White House.Plus the NSC is filthy with Obama " holdovers ".
    The Whistleblower Ciaramella was part of the NSC while his brief
    stay at the Trump White House.
     
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    The Democrat witnesses testified and the note takees have said it is an accurate transcript of what was said. If it weren't it would have been leaked a LONG time ago.
     
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    No, there is still zero evidence that the president violated the Constitution. Otherwise the articles would have reflected and referenced something specific. You folks keep pretending that broad silly accusations somehow constitute probable cause for conviction, it simply doesn't work that way. The people are bored sick with the Democrat clown shows, first the failed witch hunt and now a failed impeachment...
     
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    The very basic fact is you don't ask a foreign nation, especially one you believe to be corrupt, to investigate an American citizen. That right there is the dead giveaway to the Trump camp's corruption and bull crap. C'mon!
     
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    Everyone knows it's a lie but Trump sycophants are too cowardly to admit they support a POS liar and thief as their standard bearer.
     
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    He is US Attorney Durham is just very quiet.
     
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    Lol at the OP expecting libralz to understand basic logic
     
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    Wait, so Biden now did do something illegal regarding the quid pro-quo over the firing of the Ukrainian prosecutor?
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Biden threatened to pull aid unless Ukraine did something Biden wanted.

    Motive doesn't matter, right?
     
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    Trump's attorneys are very sharp? LMAO. One is in jail and the other is under investigation for wrong doing. Yeah, Trump always hire "the best."
     
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    How wrong-headed.It is incumbent on a President to investigate
    corruption { Ukraine was rated as The Most Corrupt Country by
    Bear Sterns } in a country where one of his Country's own
    Pol { Former Vice President and son Hunter } was acting Corrupt.
    Making Millions for doing what.Why was Joe Biden ok { lying about }
    having info regarding his Son making a million a year.That Hunter never
    talked about his huge monthly salary while working for Burisma.
    Then Biden boldly taking credit for His Quid Pro Quo.Fire that Ukraine
    Prosecutor and you have less than 6 hrs to do it Or No Billion + dollars.
    Turns out we were lied to about that Prosecutor.Or never informed it
    was the Prosecutor Investigating Burisma.Meaning Investigating Sleepy
    Joe's son.
    Which is why all this stink about Quid Pro Quo.because that is THE
    classic example of a Quid Pro Quo.What we have Joe Biden saying
    on Video.Plus using what Sleepy Joe and son are guilty of and
    Projecting onto President Trump.
    Which totally explains,also, how this Corrupt MSM refuses
    to discuss this Old Joe and Son Quid Pro Quo.Then somehow
    conflating into this Lie " Digging up dirt " on a Presidential candidate.
    I know it sounds rotten and cheap.But how much More rotten and cheap
    would it be to find a whole lot of Bidens/Ukraine dirt that needs being
    dug up.That the Bidens were virtually making out like bandits.
    That would be a terrible reflection on our Country.
    So this explains the desperation of the Democrat Party.
    One of their Own ... GOT CAUGHT.So they resort to Projection.
     
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    these are not last minute, Trump has been keeping them from talking, dems have always wanted them to speak at trial, republicans and Trump have not
     
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    Boy the last question asked { 5 minute only response } gave it all up.
    Pencil-neck was asked a simple question and it totally outs he and his
    democrats clown show.
    Asked if this Impeachment was in response to the 2016 election
    where Trump won.And Shouldn't the Voters be allowed to decide the
    fate of the President in November.
    Schiff answered and I knew this would totally as in " Like Totally "
    suck him dry for his entire POV as far as Impeaching and removing
    Trump.Basically that he and his Democrats did it To Protect our Country.
    And our Election process.As if Trump cheats and uses Russia to steal
    an election.
     
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    the impeachment already happened, done deal, history made

    The trial is to determine if Trump should be fired over what he did or not
     
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    you mean should a President be allowed to cheat in the upcoming election and get away with it... the answer is no
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The only motive Pig Scum Democrats understand once at home
    and not in D.C. is :
    Git Dat Trump Boy.I say Git em'.
    Reminscent of a nutter Democrat Bull Conner when using
    Fire Hoses and attack dogs on MLK marchers.
     
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    Who decides if cheating.I know the democrats love to make this
    charge nearly every general Election.Like in the summer of 2012
    and The Suppression of Black Votes.I need the name of one Black in
    2012 who had their vote Suppressed.
    Or the way those like *Stacey Abrams roundly accused her opponent
    of Cheating in the Georgia Governors race.Where we Know for certain that
    in Florida it was Democrat Election officials who were caught red-handed
    tampering big time with ballots.
    Look up Democrat Congressman Jim Moran who used to be a big mouth
    Regular on - Hardball -.he was forced out of office by what his son
    Patrick pulled.Patrick was Jim Morans Campaign Field Manager.
    Project Veritas nailed Patrick on a phone call explaining in detail how
    to fraudulently register Democrat Voters.

    * belligerently refused to concede the Governors race.
     
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    You mean like say..I don't know...maybe... by having their party leaders impeach the incumbent opponent?
     
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    strawman
     
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    false. if they didn't do something the president, and the EU wanted.

    personal political gain matters. biden didn't have any. trump did.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pencil.

    Wait, this is a word association thing, right? That wasn't an actual attempt at a response, was it?.

    Biden withheld aid in exchange for certain behavior from Ukraine. I was told this was okay because his motive was to obtain something that the American people wanted, namely less corruption in Ukraine.

    Now I'm told that motive doesn't matter. Apparently, Biden robbed a bank, and it doesn't matter that his children were hungry, or something.

    So I'm looking for someone to explain this inconsistency.
     
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    Everything a politician does involves personal gain. Every single thing is intended to benefit the politician. That's exactly how our system works.

    If Biden didn't strong arm Ukraine, and instead approved of their corruption, what would his voters think of him? Biden didn't brag about strong arming Ukraine because he thought it would hurt him politically. He bragged because he thought it made him look GOOD. That was the point of the conversation. He was touting something he considered a success in order to bolster his record of successful leadership.

    Imagine a system in which politicians are only allowed to do things that hurt them politically. That would be the worst. They could never do anything that would make you want to vote for them again.
     
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    so you don't know what a strawman is? It's making up an argument, attributing it to your opponent, then arguing against it.
    it's an entirely different scenario than trump.
    I've explained it already, as you are aware. You have no answer for it, so you had to make up an argument to argue against. that's why I called you on it.
     
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    not really.
    which is an entirely different scenario than trump.
    this is also irrelevant to what trump did.
     
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