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You claimed that the mental health community was on your side. That was false, so you instead turned to one person on the fringe, who disagrees with the APA and with the current standards of diagnosis. Similarly, you've repeatedly tried to characterize the BSA as a Christian organization.

I'm an Eagle Scout and I've actually been through the ordeal of being diagnosed with a disorder (depersonalization). You remain wrong on both counts.

 

it wasn't a christian group when I was growing up, maybe your church tried to make it so?

maybe your thinking of the Boys' Brigade

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boys'_Brigade

"The Boys' Brigade (BB) is an interdenominational Christian youth organisation, conceived by Sir William Alexander Smith to combine drill and fun activities with Christian values"

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That's your opinion. Here's another "fringe".
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...al-illness-classification-20160729-story.html

 

It is is a fact, not an opinion, that the BSA is not a Christian organization. It is a fact, not an opinion, that the mental health community at large does not classify transgender as a mental disorder. My claims correspond to reality in a verifiable way. Yours do not correspond to reality, and this can likewise be verified. The whole post-fact, relativist "alternative facts" approach doesn't really help you here.

 

Is the WHO a fringe group in your opinion?

 

You mean the WHO that, like the APA, classified trans as a disorder a couple of decade ago but now acknowledges that research has advanced in that area and plans on making changes to that in their next publication? No, they aren't a fringe group. You just have to read past the catchy headlines and a document from the 90s for the actual story.

http://www.who.int/gender-equity-rights/news/sexual-gender-diversity-faq.pdf

 

yeah but... 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these." (NIV, Mark 12:31) is 2nd on the list for Christian values.
...and treating others with respect is dignity.
Its up to the troop leaders and hopefully willing parents... maybe have an age appropriate discussion.
I watched this news story and I wouldn't do what that mom did. Id listen, and not judge any play my child did with "gender".
I don't think Id let an 8 yr old decide yet what gender they are.

 

Yes. As pressure is applied, people give in to political correctness and ignore facts and common sense.

 

The WHO has provided the research that changed their minds. As for political correctness goes, the far right is just as PC, as the objections to the BSA's decision show.

 

I guess this proves you've never been a scout. And now a Jesus follower is coming into question. To much hate to lay claim of following Jesus.

 

As opposed to the right that dismisses the other 98 that are distinguished in the field, but have the opposite view.

 

Go ahead and give us the names and credentials of these 98.

 

http://www.apadivisions.org/division-44/index.aspx?_ga=1.101040388.46440939.1485976006

 

Don't see any names or credentials. Back on ignore for you. I'll give you another chance in a few weeks.

 

The choice should be left to the unit to take these poeple in. If the unit doesn't want to deal with the "complications and headaches" it should be able to deny them.

 

It is up to the unit, under current rules (from a few days ago).

 

Then all is well

 

Don't bother. Keep me on ignore. You'll be happier. As are most who can't handle critique of their claims and can only handle those who fill their echo chamber. BTW - that list is a list of honor. It shows who can dismantle your claims.
I will still call out when you make ignorant claims.

 

I see what you did there.

 

Its called embracing science vs your anti science.

How someone feels about their state of mind means nothing when it comes to their sex so why should we indulge a deluded mind over rock hard science.

Unless you wish to claim there is scientific evidence that you can change your sex.

 

That is nice to know, but has nothing to do with anything I said

 

Actually it has everything to do with what you said. Your idea of embracing humanity is anti science because it requires belief someone is a different sex than what science can verify.
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Did I make a pun? I ment the troop, pack, crew, and whatever else. I worked for the BSA and was very involved as a youth, so that's just the lingo.

But the individual troops/pack so forth should make the call. Many of these groups are associated with churches. They have to keep up with their charter. And there are other boys and parents that may not be too keen on a "trans boy" going camping with them.

It may isolate the "trans" people but they have to start developing thick skin. What if they go on a date with a woman and they find out "he" doesn't have the proper um..."wedding tackle" and the lady decided not to date them anymore? It's going to be a hard world on trans people, even if everybody completely accepted them. It's good training to be (as best can be expected that is) a well adjusted member of society.

To be honest, being a homo myself I've really never have received any stigma from anyone. Even southern Texas rural Baptists. But than again I'm really respectful of others. Seems that makes life a lot easier. A lesson I'm ashamed to admit I learned the hard way, but learned none the less.

I'll quit rambling.

 

See I dont see it as respectful to indulge a delusion or force it upon others. Living your life as an individual I have no problem with its when you force your beliefs and they are certainly beliefs upon others is wrong.

And most of these kids haven't even hit puberty. I consider it child abuse to indulge a mental incapacity of believing you are a sex you are not before your own body reaches puberty.

 

Well i don't tell poeple how to feel about it that is wrong. Forcing it on them will only breed contempt.

Of course it is.

I don't think any of the surgery or horimone therapy should be administrated to youth at all.