boy-scouts-will-allow-transgender-boys

So I think this doesn't help. As a standard, a boy who is still biologically a boy would still be allowed, and the addition would be girls who think they are boys would be also allowed.

I believe there are more than just physical standards, there are also moral, and integrity, and intellectual. Think about it logistically for a second, do you have to house girls differently than boys? Do you or must you adhere to title IX standards providing them equal but separate facilities for example. Or, since they think they are boys, you put them in the same showers? Do they wear the same uniforms? So many unanswered questions.

 

And unless you're a scout leader, you won't have to worry about it.
But AFAIK, the transgender boy wants to be treated as any other boy. So that pretty much answers your questions.

 

Does it? So, you'd put them in say the same locker room, and they then discover that they are physically different. Then what?

 

What locker room do boy scouts even go into?

You mean like this boy has a big penis, and this boy can hardly see his penis?

 

More like this one has one, and this one doesn't. Hard to overcome biology at that age.

 

These fools never think anything through. They stop at 'feelings'.

What happens in a shower room (at camp, or whatever) when two dozen 14/15 year old boys discover Johnny has a vagina and boobs? I'm not suggesting pack rape will ensue, but I am suggesting that that scenario is going to be extremely awkward at the very least.

 

Which one?

 

I don't worry about the sexualization of the scenario, I'm more shocked that the liberals in the world are so suddenly not worried about the trauma of transgender girls realizing that they will be unlikely to ever really be boys. Their transition is so far unfinishable. Even cosmetic alteration cannot overcome this. So, they will be traumatized, as boys are likely to do, given the obvious difference that will be pointed out to them.

 

Kids of scouting age don't get to drive, vote, drink, smoke, vape, chew tobacco, marry, apply for credit cards, get tattoos etc, but letting them make choices about their gender at a time their hormones haven't stabilized? What could possibly go wrong?

 

All of those are legal status', and have nothing whatsoever to do with physical development. Or what age each individual knows things about their body.
You can bet your last $$$ that those reaching puberty know they want sex. So a legal age limit won't stop them from having sex.

 

My point wasn't about them wanting sex, my point was about them altering their gender before they are fully developed.

 

You don't have to be in a lockerroom to know the difference. Girls dint look like boys.

 

Well, for all practical purposes, the girls who think they are boys want to be treated as boys. Theoretically, nothing should change, and they should be treated as boys, with no different accommodations for bathrooms, tents, uniforms, etc. That said, I don't believe it will be that simple. As a Scout leader, the whole idea is terrifying, as these are still girls biologically, regardless of what they want to be. Most of the newer renovated Scout camps are ready for this--many of them have separate shower stalls with changing areas and showers, all in one tiny room. Under current regs, male (or female) Scout leaders cannot be in a bathroom at the same time as a Scout (except for emergencies). Besides summer camp, though, showers are rarely an issue. Most Boy Scouts don't shower on weekend campouts.

 

As a Scout leader, my observation is that most of the Scouts are very private about changing. There are no open locker rooms in scouting, and most scouts don't even change clothes in their tents when other scouts are in them. Most scouts don't change clothes on weekend campouts, for that matter.

 

And what is this magical age when every human in the world is fully developed? Do you decide what age that is?
My point is kids know who they are, what sex they like, and how they feel.
I've heard from experts in the field, a child as young as 4 or 5 knows if they aren't as their BC says in terms of sex.

 

For most trans, it's very very hard to tell if clothes are on.
And even if one may suspect something, they may just think the person is gay.

 

Bullshit.

Gay? That's absurd gay men don't look anything like women.

 

How many trans would join the scouts?
And if no one is changing clothes, the 1 of 10,000 scouts that is, no one would know, if the trans was keeping it a secret.

 

Most gay men are feminine. And a trans is very close to a gay person.

 

This is precisely why the suicide rate is so high. The more people around them enable and affirm, the more the poor kid will suffer when objective reality keeps reminding them that it's not true.

 

No, only responsible adults can do that. That is, after all, OUR responsibility. Unless we want to raise animals, of course. Even then, responsible animal breeders don't allow their females to be bred as soon as they're biologically able.

 

Lol, no they aren't. Stereotypes of gay men are. You must not know many gay men.

What!? One is a gender identity and the other is a sexual orientation. They aren't close at all.

 

4 year olds don't know their a$$ from their elbow.

It's entirely irrelevant what age a kid is when he/she first thinks about sex/gender. It's our job to guide them away from such thoughts until they're an appropriate age to give such things (limited) attention. No different to murder and mayhem, or violent movies, or drugs, or rape .. we don't encourage our kids to dwell on such things. It's AGE INAPPROPRIATE.

 

The suicide rate is high among them is because there are people like in this forum that want to treat them as insane. And they aren't. Unless one wants to start included gays as insane also. I know there are some that do.

 

That's so ... weirdly wrong.