BREAKING: House impeachment investigators release transcripts of first two deposition testimonies

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  1. Paul7

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    And if it rained in the Sahara, you could grow tomatoes there. The popular vote is irrelevant, don't like it get it changed. The campaign was conducted according to our election rules, had it been based on the popular vote Trump would have campaigned in blue states and gotten millions more votes.
     
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    Conjecture and supposition especially self serving ones do not make for fact. No one has shown a quid pro quo, Ukraine never knew the money was delayed the mere 55 days, they gave nothing for it you claims fall on their face. And yes Trump was concerned as Kent testified the State Department was warning him about it. And Ivanka had her business BEFORE her father ever even announced he would be running and applying for copyrights in foreign countries is standard order of business as for ANY company wanting to sell it's products in a foreign country.
     
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    Rule by politburo with Trump as it chairman, is what Trump is giving you. :(
     
  4. Thought Criminal

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    You're not even trying.

    That's so far wrong that, honestly, it's disappointing.
     
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    I just heard on the news that there's possibly a second witness to the second call between Trump & Sondland in the restaurant in Kiev. The whistle blower is under federal protection--by law. With the first hand witnesses over the past couple of weeks, there's no further need for the original whistle blower to testify, because his/her info was second-hand info. No fallacious claims are being made. Democrats are trying to protect the Constitution & the American government. I agree with your last sentence. Why indeed, would a competent President make such a call in such an unprotected way? But evidently, he did. Another piece of that growing mountain of evidence that Trump is inept.
     
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    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    1. Trump is at the core of everything going on in Congress right now.
    2. I have no idea where or how you arrive at your conclusions, but I'm as far from a totalitarian supporter as one can get. Trump has a long history of admiring totalitarian leaders, & a clear wannabe attitude toward becoming one himself. How is it that you don't see that?
     
  7. XploreR

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    First, I'm not supporting impeachment because I'm pissed that Hillary lost the election. I'm supporting impeachment because I care about the U.S. Constitution & the U.S. government, & I'm convinced Trump lacks the moral integrity to live up to his oath of office.

    Yes, I know it is the states that elect the President. I'm simply of the opinion that's an antiquated, outdated, irrelevant system that needs to be discontinued.
     
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    The new second phone call of July 26th definitely does have confirming evidence.
     
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    1. Lt. Col. A. Vindman has testified to the contrary to your post. Since Vindman was listening in on the actual conversation live, I trust him.
    2. Of course Trump has the right to oppose corruption in Ukraine. But he didn't do that. He used it to his personal advantage. That's the Trump way. I challenge you to offer any examples anywhere, anytime, that Trump has done anything to reduce corruption.
     
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    Nice, but empty argument. Your "deep state" is the dedicated professional federal workers who've dedicated their very lives to serving their country. Politicians who pretend they are guilty of malfeasance or wrongdoing for reporting concerns over politician's activities that they feel endanger the nation are abusing their oath of office--just as Trump has done.

    Before you continue protecting Trump, consider who won the day after Trump's personal decisions in Syria & Ukraine. It was Putin & Russia. Why does Trump keep allowing Russia to win in every situation where he & Putin confront each other?
     
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    Both Trump's & GW Bush's election demonstrate the failure of the Electoral College to serve as intended. It is time to get rid of it.
     
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    More hearsay from a noisy restaurant and of course a President should be concerned about corrupt with American tax dollars.
     
  13. Thought Criminal

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    You are supporting this hoax. You are supporting the unconstitutional usurpation of power from the voters. You are supporting those who abuse their powers of office in order to deny the will of the people.
     
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    If you cared about the US Constitution and the US Government you would oppose this impeachment scheme the Democrats have cooked up. And if you knew the States elect the President they you wouldn't be yammering about a nonexistent popular vote.
     
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    The Electoral College did exactly as the Constitution mandates, the STATES elect the President not the People and your not going to get rid of it no matter that you candidate lost.
     
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    You apparently know little about this.
     
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    You are not standing on your professed convictions. Why should anyone believe you?

    You claim to believe that Trump should be impeached due to his alleged lack of moral integrity, yet you support this sham.

    If you were to practice what you preach, you might have a leg to stand upon.
     
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    If there is evidence that Trump said he wanted Ukraine to announce an investigation the Bidens to lift the suspension of that aid, do you agree he should be impeached?
     
  19. Thought Criminal

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    Yeah, yeah. I know.

    Sources say...

    Sorry but you'll have to provide the original, unedited video.
     
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    WTF??!?

    If there is evidence that the moon landings were faked, do you agree that they were fake?
     
  21. Bush Lawyer

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    Simple question deserves a straight ansewer.

    If there is evidence that Trump said he wanted Ukraine to announce an investigation the Bidens to lift the suspension of that aid, do you agree he should be impeached?
     
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    Yep. (See, it is not hard to answer a simple question.)

    If there is evidence that Trump said he wanted Ukraine to announce an investigation into the Bidens to lift the suspension of that aid, do you agree he should be impeached?
     
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    Seriously?

    You would deny obvious reality because of some evidence?

    I have all the evidence that I need. I'm not moving without proof. Good luck finding proof.
     
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    Ditto....
     
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    Is that a proud proclaimation of opposition to the American value of innocent until proven guilty?
     

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