Can hate win an election?

1. For ballot box limits, see: https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/13/us/texas-election-ballot-drop-box-ruling/index.html
1. For long voting lines with >10 hours waiting time to vote, see: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-long-lines-as-early-voting-starts-in-georgia
1. For attempting to stop counting votes (something never done by any President before in American history), see: https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-seeks-voting-stop-25762f69b27dfbccc4fd8077fb5fdc91
2. You said: "That is why so may black American voters chose Trump over Biden, and why many of their votes were nullified by vote fraud." You offered no evidence for your claim shown here in bold letters. I gave you sources of evidence for my claims. Now it's your turn.

 

Apparently not. Thank God.

 

Those links contain no evidence of RP vote fraud.
That is probably why you failed to paste up anything from your links.

In fact Trump received far more votes from black Americans in every state where there were no voting irregularities AKA DP vote fraud.

 

And I would welcome any proof that blacks and other minorities DID NOT show increased support for Trump over 2016. The support is there. Florida swung to him by such a margin that it will likely be a stronghold state in 2024 against AOC and her predictable play for minority sympathy --- in a state of Cuban refugees and other freedom-loving Latinos.

 

Why do you assume ordering Americans to do ANYTHING is somehow moral? Or that lower-income people could afford such a thing unless they were ordered to take it?

Don't feed me that sob story about the chilluns gonna die if'n we don't force this down everybody's throat.

 

IOW, you still have not posted any evidence of RP vote fraud. Long lines have been part of elections in DP controlled states and cities.

No poll watchers were allowed to closely observe the count in key counting centers. Minority votes for Trump surged in every state where poll watchers were allowed to closely observe the count.

This election was obviously rigged.

 

You are doing what Trump does--ignore the facts, or worse, pretend they don't exist & make up your own alternative ones. I can see why you support Trump.

 

Cuban latinos are different from most other Latino voters in the U.S. Cubans came from Cuba when Castro took over. To be sure, their hatred of Castro was understandable & deserved. But the reality generally overlooked by almost all Americans, is that these Cuban refugees were supporters of the bloody Batista dictatorship that Castro overthrew. Batista was just as bloodthirsty as Castro. The only difference was one was on the tyrannical right & the other on the tyrannical left. Trump reminded the Florida Latinos of Batista. I find it extremly sad that in a time span of two generations living in the U.S., these Latinos still fail to recognize the gifts of democracy. They still vote for a tyrant.

 

Why & how do you conclude that ordering all Americans to do ANYTHING is somehow immoral? And children do die who have no access to healthcare. Doing anything to prevent that access is itself immoral.

 

1. In this particular election, Texas & Georgia both changed rules at the last moment, regarding voting in darker skinned minority areas, with the clear intent of limiting voting there. Can you cite states under democratic rule that did the same?
2. Watchers from both parties were present in all the ballot counting centers. There were also live, online TV videos available for each counting center. Your charges are total, unsubstianted BS.
3. In Trump strongholds, yes it was. Yet, somehow, the American voters surmounted all obstacles & had their say anyway. Good for them.

 

Baloney.

1. There is no evidence that the motivation for any of those changes had anything to do with skin color.
2. Ballot watchers are "present" to verify the authenticity of the ballots.
A lawyer who attempts through pleading to bar watchers from carrying out that task is IMO unethical, and would be complicit in any vote fraud that might eventually be exposed.
3. In fact, the minority vote was repeatedly revealed to be surging for Trump by pollsters who have been shown to understate Trump's support. The surge of support for Trump in the minority community was the key to his wins in every state that was not plagued by a rigged vote count in key counting centers.

"The latest Zogby Analytics poll just shared with Secrets had Trump’s approval at 52%. “The president has recorded his best job approval rating on record,” said pollster Jonathan Zogby.

What’s more, his approval rating among minorities was solid and, in the case of African Americans, shockingly high. Zogby said 36% of blacks approve of the president, as do 37% of Hispanics and 35% of Asians.

Approval among independent voters is also up, to 44%. And “intriguingly,” said Zogby, 23% of Democrats approve of Trump.

It was the latest to show that Trump’s approval went up during the Democratic National Convention. Rasmussen Reports had it at 51% at the end of the convention.

In a shock from past election years, Joe Biden got no convention poll bounce, according to a newly released Reuters/Ipsos poll."
WASHINGTON EXAMINER, Trump pops to 52%: ‘Best job approval rating on record,’ up with blacks, even Democrats, By Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist, August 26, 2020.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ating-on-record-up-with-blacks-even-democrats

"The latest Zogby Analytics poll just shared with Secrets had Trump’s approval at 52%. “The president has recorded his best job approval rating on record,” said pollster Jonathan Zogby.

What’s more, his approval rating among minorities was solid and, in the case of African Americans, shockingly high. Zogby said 36% of blacks approve of the president, as do 37% of Hispanics and 35% of Asians.

Approval among independent voters is also up, to 44%. And “intriguingly,” said Zogby, 23% of Democrats approve of Trump.

It was the latest to show that Trump’s approval went up during the Democratic National Convention. Rasmussen Reports had it at 51% at the end of the convention.

In a shock from past election years, Joe Biden got no convention poll bounce, according to a newly released Reuters/Ipsos poll."
WASHINGTON EXAMINER, Trump pops to 52%: ‘Best job approval rating on record,’ up with blacks, even Democrats, By Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist, August 26, 2020.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ating-on-record-up-with-blacks-even-democrats

 

1. Their location is evidence of their motives--in black & Latino minority voting districts.
2. It was my understanding that those hired to actually count the votes are the same ones who are responsible for verifying their authenticity. The "watchers" from both parties are there just to watch the ongoing process & catch any irregularities that might be visible. I don't see a problem here. It happened exactly as it was supposed to.
3. That's a pretty broad, generalized claim that I see no evidence supporting. Trump's wishing it were true, coupled with his inability to admit defeat, seems a more logical backdrop for your claim. Pure BS.
4. I've never seen any poll numbers of support for Trump reach 50%--never during his Presidency. Your trust in this particular poll is misdirected. I urge more care in selecting the information you decide to support.
5. The final stats for this election say 12% of black men supported Trump. Far fewer black women did so. So the final overall average of blacks generally supporting Trump is far smaller than 12%. Nice try.
6. I don't know the breakdown of independents supporting Trump, but I know it wasn't 44% nationwide. Maybe it was in some red states. I can only imagine 23% of Democrats supporting Trump's forced retirement & eviction from the White House.

 

I just showed a Zogby poll that showed Trump over 50%. There were others showed him at 50% or higher, you should have watched more closely.
Trump's approval among minorities continued to surge throughout his presidency to levels that made a DP win in an honest election impossible. Hence this rigged election. It was the only way

"The polling numbers Trump was referring to were likely from a Reuters/Ipsos poll that asked respondents, “Do you approve or disapprove about the way Donald Trump is handling his job as President?” Filtered for black male respondents, the poll does show Trump’s approval increasing from about 11 to about 22 percent. For black people overall, the increase was from about 9 to about 17 percent."
HUFFINGTON POST, Trump Thanks Kanye At NRA Convention For Doubling His African-American Polling Numbers, “Kanye West must have some power ... Thank you, Kanye, thank you,” he said., By Jenna Amatulli, POLITICS 05/04/2018 03:46 pm ET Updated 1 day ago.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...-american-polling_us_5aecaba1e4b0ab5c3d6576f4

 

Can hate win an election?

Looks that way.

 

Your post is interesting, & it helps explain your prior submissions, but I think the closeness of the election demonstrates the general inability of polls to make or maintain fine discriminations regarding voter preferences. In a general sense, polls are quite accurate, but in a finer sense, they fail to measure up. 2020 was a grueling, fine-grained election that wore on everyone's nerves & patience. I'm relieved it's over.

 

In America love will eventually prevail.

 

It is not over yet.

The polls are tools of the corrupt bipartisan ruling political class. They are always political and never objective. Even The Poynter Organization admits that the pollsters are stinkers.

"Inside scoop on Nate Silver’s forecasting model

“IN CASE I, NATE SILVER, DIE, FOLLOW THESE STEPS TO UPDATE THE FIVETHIRTYEIGHT ELECTIONS FORECAST MODEL” writes Tao Yang in McSweeney’s:

-Navigate to these coordinates (40.731014, -74.303500) on the night of a waxing moon. Bring a white goat. Once there you will see a keypad.”

-Enter the probability of a sample mean being two standard deviations from the population mean at a 95% confidence level.

-To enter the chamber where the model resides you must pass” three trials: shouting out certain baseball metrics; find four stone tablets with a scatterplot etched on each and press the one with a correlation of 0.6; and then find an old Compaq desktop in the final of three chambers, turn it on and boot up to PokerStars with a $10 bankroll you turn into $10,000 to enter the final chamber.

Finally, select “Update Model” and find an altar appearing behind you. “Chant the new poll results while performing a blood sacrifice with the white goat on the altar.”"
POYNTER.ORG, As election polling blows it, press self-flagellation begins,
https://www.poynter.org/newsletters...ling-blows-it-press-self-flagellation-begins/

 

Polls aren't my area of expertise. But polls don't elect our politicians. Voters do. And those votes have been accurately tabulated by trustworthy workers--many of them volunteers. We have a good election system; a trustworthy one. Let's keep faith with it.

 

This election has proved that our election system has been broken by the determined efforts of corrupt DP party bosses. They have been caught red handed and the courts will have deal with it.
Reform is mandatory.

 

I don't know where you get the idea our voting system is broken. I watched it work splendidly for several days, & absolutely no evidence of massive voter fraud other than Republican efforts to block voters from voting, was ever presented. I know how it feels to watch my candidate lose a campaign. I sympathize. But more Americans voted in 2020, than in any election in American history. Truly, the American voter expresed their will, & made their choice. I think that choice was the better one offered. Trump was a disaster. He divided the country the worst of any President since the 1850s. Biden is already reaching across the aisle to honor his pledge to represent all Americans, even those who voted for Trump. Biden wants to heal the nation. I concur with him completely. Let's put the nation's health first--even over our own personal feelings.

 

Then you watched an election rigged right in front of you. The DP party bosses do that a lot.
They have even been caught rigging their own primaries and their nomination process. I bet you have noticed.

 

I asked this question on another thread but would be interested in your response because of this post. What can "poll watching" do relative to proving that ballots are being counted? Unless someone can see the marked ovals AND count for each candidate as ballots are being fed into the machines, there seems to be no point other than some form of intimidation of poll workers.

 

First they can validate or challenge the signatures on the mailing envelopes of mail in ballots.
This is the first time DP party bosses have stopped count observers, from both parties, from closely examining every part of the vote count.

Election observers matter.



This election was rigged.


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In the video posted a woman is seen walking back and forth behind a fence. How can she possibly be checking signatures from that far away from any of the tables. That's my point.

 

LOL! Yes, what can she see from behind that barrier?
Nothing.