Covid revealed our weaknesses

The "entire world" didn't. Only certain places.
American propaganda, which reaches around the world convinced some other countries to go overboard.

Some countries only implemented a lighter and more casual shutdown than the one in the US.

The countries that went overboard were mostly the progressive, Leftist, or Asian (Japanese, Chinese, Korean) countries that typically overreact to any risks like this.

 

Quote; “All for a ****ing Flu”

Knowing what we know now.....if the dog didn’t stop to **** he would have caught the rabbit.

 

It was the flu. A bad flu for sure but it wasn't ebola. Or the plague. It wasn't something that was going to end civilization. It was the flu. For most people under 60 years old and without a serious comorbid it had a VERY low risk rate. And masks or mandates it did it's thing regardless. And the only thing that got us back out and working and living was another weaker strand of the flu. It sure as **** wasn't the vaccine.

 

Correct, not the entire world. But most all the major countries. Except the USA, we did not shut down.
China locked things down for over 1 month in early 2020.
Much of Europe did the same.
And you think they did because they wanted trump to lose the election. I don't buy it for 1 second. That would be asinine for them to do so.

trump was president. How did his propaganda trick them into shutting down?
What makes you think it wasn't their high case rate and death?

 

Trump served us a leftist curveball in order to destroy our economy and the American way of life.

 

mRNA is the cold fusion of virology.

 

Hardly.

It's the next gen..

 

While the pandemic could have been much worse without testing, testing is still over rated. It doesn't seem like there is a country on the planet who has been able to stop Covid. No matter what anyone did, Covid advanced. And, it seems like some kind of herd immunity eventually happened in the US and other countries because the vaccines did nothing to stop the virus from spreading so it spread and infected most everyone, which is why things got better. We owe the vaccines credit for protecting millions from serious health issues and death but the vaccines did zero to stop the spread of the virus.

 

A number of Asian countries were able to fight Covid with tight lockdowns, and other measures. South Korea likely had the best program.

 

But the current variant is flourishing in SK and extreme lockdowns in China haven't been working.

 

You were way off the mark, this is complicated, the SK regime worked on earlier variants. The newer variants point to a need to get everyone vaccinated before it can produce variant after variant.

Assuming we weren't idiots, there is also the ability to create a much better quarrantine protocol with massive testing ability, and supercomputers to do real time tracking.

Like most, you haven't figured out the game has changed, and we need to change with it, or get screwed even worse than we got with Covid.

 

Like most, you haven't figured out that no matter what we do, the game will always be changing and we are always behind the curve and always will be. That has been obvious from day one but the left refuse to see it.

 

South Korea got hit by SARS and upped it's game. That drastically lowered it's death rate until the vaccines showed up. We got hit at the same time, compare the death rates...

We have the tech to do even better, but preparation is always key to winning.

You're behind the curve, not everyone is..

 

Yes, everyone is behind the curve.The best we can say is that if it wasn't for what we did, it would have been worse. But, we are still behind the curve and always will be because science is always behind the curve. By the time the left wait for hard science, the science has already changed.

 

Repeating it doesn't make it any better...

South Korea had an effective pandemic routine. They learned it from us. No, we don't know everything, but there is a lot we do know, that aren't part of our pandemic response plan.

One other thing, Obama helped build Trump's pandemic response team. Trump disbanded it. Obama left a pandemic manual for Trump to use. Trump ignored it.

First Rule of Holes: when you're in one, stop digging..

 

South Korea is currently experiencing high increases. So much for them being better.

 

"After adjusting for the 6.5 fold differences in populations, the U.S. has suffered 47 times more cases and 79 times more deaths than South Korea."

Yes, things were different with the later variants. But you are ignoring the obvious, the difference, 70 TIMES MORE DEATHS is staggering. It's even worse when you realise we taught them how to do it.

Which is what you want to avoid, isn't?

You know who screwed up mega-massively.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/08/200820102431.htm

 

You are preprogrammed to say that things are better in SK than in other countries, even at the very same time things are getting much worse in SK and you totally ignore the facts. And, you claim that lockdowns in Asian countries helped against Covid at the very same time that SEVERE lockdowns in China haven't been working, yet again ignoring the facts.

 

Wow, talk about desperation.

Or you haven't a freaking clue, take yer pick.

SK did a much better job than we did for the first variant. There is no denying that.

Since you can't handle this, let's stick with South Korea..

"But with almost 87% of South Korea's 52 million residents fully vaccinated and 63% of residents having now received booster shots, the country's infection and death rate is still far lower than many other nations." That's despite having the highest infection rate at that time.

This is all about Trump. He f***ed up, stop pretending you can talk about this honestly, or intelligently..

First Rule of Holes, when you're in one stop digging.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/asia/south-korea-covid-surge-deaths-intl-hnk/index.html

 

Just can't handle the truth and the facts, can you? As I said, you are pre-programmed by the left agenda to ignore all facts that don't fit your pre-conceived agenda. The following links are NOT from Fox News:


https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-...s-calm-covid-cases-hit-new-record-2022-02-23/

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/asia/south-korea-covid-surge-deaths-intl-hnk/index.html

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/C...-another-COVID-19-flare-up-led-by-South-Korea

 

I just talked about that.

Back in the real world, there is an array of things we can do to get ready for a pandemic, and to deal with it once it gets here.

We are a long ways from being ready for the next one, so I have to wonder the reason behind your babbling.

Best guess is you're defending Trump, which is wildly irrational. I went over why earlier in the thread, 79 times the mortality rate.

If you don't have something substantive, just stop. (You don't)

 

It is you who are babbling. I said nothing about Trump but when cornered that's all you guys do is bring up Trump and claim I'm a Fox News Hound. You said South Korea was one of the best at handling the virus. I showed you that you were wrong. I can't help you if you are a fact denier and a truth denier. And, you guys have your heads up your asses if you think you can vaccinate the whole world quickly enough that there will be no more variants. Not only is that not possible but the virus mutates in vaccinated people as well. The belief that you can stop variants is just nothing but left wing fantasy. There will be variants and you can't stop that.

 

“…. Just a few billion $ more. A breakthrough is right around the corner!”

They can’t prepare for an uncooperative China, an election year, and social media screaming “50% death rate!”
SARS scared us so much we still did nothing. Vaccines via standard means never made it to market because it took too long.

 

The breakthrough already happened.

We can prepare for a pandemic, South Korea proved it. We got hit at the same time, but we had 79 times more deaths.

Good point, and we're not doing much now.

True, but these new mRNA vaccines can be developed much faster.

 

The problem we have in science now it's not how to turn things on, it's how to turn it off!
We are very careful with things that replicate in our bodies until we are sure they won’t keep replicating beyond design and compromise the patient.
If I may pry, are you involved in mRNA research?