Don gets a pass...........for everything. One could argue it began here.

Don also denied having an extra-marital affair with Stormy Daniels. But we know that was a lie too.

For a woman who claims to have had sex with Donald Trump a dozen or so years ago – which Trump denies – and who was paid $130,000 in hush money during the 2016 election not to talk about the matter, the personal and political appear inextricably linked.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-worst-90-seconds-of-my-life-on-stand-up-tour

 

That is one of the problems with your arguments. You take one event and repeat it one hundred times and then count it as one hundred events.

 

The problem with your arguments is you keep making lots of assertions with zero evidence to back them up.

"You take one event and repeat it one hundred times and then count it as one hundred events."

In fact, I did nothing of the kind.

 

Then how many times have you repeated the Stormy Daniels event?

 

Isn't Trump a brutish and crude braggart? That's the way I've seen him for years. I simply do not believe what I consider "locker room talk" especially coming from someone like that.

You're cherry picking. You say Trump is a "proven liar" yet you simply choose to believe what he has said about fondling women.

 

Don't know. I've never looked at the evidence.

 

I agree, but its not a hanging offense

That was trump when he used to be a liberal

 

If the accusations were credible they would have been acted upon, as we saw with Bill Cosby. And to my knowledge, none of these came out until after his presidential bid except the garbage about his ex-wife, which she herself has refuted.

How many of these have been investigated by authorities? How many civil suits have been filled against Trump? How many times have police reports been filled?

There just isn't really anything but a bunch of conveniently timed accusations.

 

I say Trump is a proven liar because it is true. The evidence backs me up. His recent lies about his environmental record being a perfect example.
With regard to him being a sexual predator I once again rely on the evidence......that being 24......24....... women coming forward with their accounts of Don's groping and Don bragging about that exact type of behavior to B. Bush.

The "locker room talk" meme is the convenient cover story.

How about this? Ivana and E. Jean Carroll are the only women to accuse Don of rape involving penetration. According to your logic since it's only two it's more credible, right? Of course not. You'll find some sort of rationale to refuse to believe that too.

Like I said at the beginning.........."They excuse it all away with a combination of false equivalences, denials, refusals to accept objective reality, and by choosing to believe the words and tweets of a proven, pathological liar.
Their reaction to this post will be no different."

 

They not only lied. They got caught.
Did you sleep thru it?

 

Everyone can be considered a "proven liar". Because I think even you would agree that everyone lies. Trump, you, me, everybody.

So being a "proven liar" in no way gives any weight to a claim one way or the other.

 

I see your logic there, but it does also very much come off as locker room talk when you listen to the tape in its entirety. One has to ask, why do you believe he is telling the truth on the tape? Kind of being selective aren't you? If a man like Trump was going to lie about anything, I would wager sexual exploits would top the list.

And I'll say again, of the 24, how many police reports? Investigations? Civil suits? Trump is a billionaire, surely at least one of these women would have tried to get some hush money like Stormy did.

 

I guess so

Why dont yo ‘Splain it to me?

 

You asked me why I believe Trump when he said he grabs women's p*ssy's while also believing he lies pathologically. I explained both beliefs are based on the evidence. His assertion of p*ssy grabbing or other forms of inappropriate touching is backed up by the accounts of 24 women. It's possible if not likely there are others who have chosen to remain silent. Your conclusion that more women making accusations makes it less likely to be true is a twist of logic that doesn't just strain credulity........it snaps it in half.

 

But.........there's the 24 women saying he did what he claimed to do. There are the accounts of beauty pageant participants reporting Don coming in to their dressing room in various states of undress. Something he bragged about on the radio to Howard Stern. Just like he bragged about groping to Billy Bush.
Are you seeing a pattern here? His bragging is substantiated by the accounts of dozens of women.

I must say, the mental gymnastics you folks to through to maintain your support for an incompetent pig of a man is nothing less than shocking.

 

Atwater you are engaged in circular reasoning:

1) The accounts of the 24 women being touched inappropriately must be true because President Trump bragged about touching a bunch of women inappropriately.
2) President Trump bragged about touching a bunch of women inappropriately....that must be true because 24 women accused him of touching them inappropriately.

You do know what circular reasoning is don't you?​

 

That's not circular reasoning. It's basing a belief on common sense (Don has a vested interest in lying about groping.........the women do not), the consistency of the stories told by Don and the women, and the preponderance of the evidence available.
I found the accounts of the 24 women credible. I find them even more credible given Don admitting to doing what they say he did.
The same is true for the accounts of him walking in to a women's dressing room so he can watch them change.

I understand you can't bring yourself to accept the truth about Don. I just don't understand why.

 

You do remember that I started a thread in this forum calling for the end of Trumps time in office didn't you?

 

Good for you. That doesn't explain why you don't believe the accounts of all the women in favor of a man with the morals of a gnat. Indeed, it makes it harder to understand.

 

Everyone knows what Trumps character is ............

only the Trump supporters pretend Trumps innocence

 

As I said, he gets a pass...............for everything. Like.........
Trump’s July 4 event and weekend protests bankrupted D.C. security fund, mayor says
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...1a79c2551bf_story.html?utm_term=.f2084c18ccc0
"President Trump’s overhauled Fourth of July celebration cost the D.C. government $1.7 million, an amount that — combined with police expenses for demonstrations through the weekend — has bankrupted a special fund used to protect the nation’s capital from terrorist threats and provide security at events such as rallies and state funerals."

The military said their cost for Don's use of a national holiday to promote himself was $1.2M.

Then there's.............
ICE, FBI use state driver's license photos for facial-recognition scans
Washington (CNN)Agents from Immigration and Customs Enforcement and the FBI are utilizing state driver's license databases to scan through "millions of Americans' photos without their knowledge or consent.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/08/politics/fbi-ice-driver-license-photos-facial-recognition/index.html

Normally, these kinds of stories would stay in the news cycle for days. But with Capt. Chaos at the helm all but major scandals are pushed off the pages of newspapers and of TV news screens in hours in favor of the newest scandal.

 

Now you're bitching about a measly 1.2 million dollars? Talk about petty.

 

You have to understand, a small minority of American voters -- 27% of the electorate -- voted for Trump because of those factors.

They for voted someone whose character was much like themselves in nearly every respect, including intellectual capabilities.

We let it happen. Our apathy, our inability to make a decision, created a situation where we allowed Trump's supporters to make the decision for us. 90 million Americans stayed home on election day. Another 10 million cast their vote in a meaningless protest, voting for someone who had no chance of winning. That is nearly 40 million votes more than Trump received.

So, the people who liked Trump's characteristics made him President. You can see evidence of that on every thread in PF's file.

 

You "announce" that number as though its significant. It's not. About half of eligible American voters typically do not vote in presidential elections. It has been that way for generations.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...pstein-sex-party-age-13-FABRICATED-story.html oh no.