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Dossier fails the test of time; Trump-Russia collusion claims now called 'likely false'

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  1. ocean515

    ocean515 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Should I assume you've stomped your feet and said, "so there"?

    LOL

    You should actually try to comment on the issues being raised, rather than just attack people all the time. You might one day be viewed as having something credible to add to the conversation.
     
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  2. LibChik

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    And that only lasts until he's out of office or impeached. As soon as he's out of the White House, they can slap cuffs on.

    lol, its gonna be such a great year!!!
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Man, PF.com really needs to develop a reading comprehension test to be able to post on here...

    There is a YUGE gap of space between
    "Trump-Russia collusion claims now called 'likely false"
    and
    "some of the more sensational allegations are likely false.”

    He's talking pee-pee tape, not the base allegation of the Dossier...

    SNIP
    Some of the dossier’s broad threads have now been independently corroborated. U.S. intelligence agencies and the special counsel’s investigation into Russian election interference did eventually find that Kremlin-linked operatives ran an elaborate operation to promote Trump and hurt Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton, as the dossier says in its main narrative.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.apnews.com/55b8a55d5a7545b99d0f915affb7d852

    But keep plugging away with this misdirection. Remember, you can fool some of the people all of the time...
     
    Egoboy, Jan 1, 2019
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  4. JakeStarkey

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    I get a kick out of ocean515's petulant cries when he has lost a discussion. He will pretend it his opponent who is red-eyed and windmilling his arms, when all the time it is ocean515 in petulant glory.

    Yeah, let's repeat again what the Trumperettes know have been proven: "Some of the dossier’s broad threads have now been independently corroborated. U.S. intelligence agencies and the special counsel’s investigation into Russian election interference did eventually find that Kremlin-linked operatives ran an elaborate operation to promote Trump and hurt Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton, as the dossier says in its main narrative."

    Yup, the OP is a hoax.
     
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  5. camp_steveo

    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    "...based on the public record at this point, I'd have to say that most of the specific allegations have not been borne out."

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/18/steele-dossier-michael-isikoff/2347833002/

    Having trouble reading?
     
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  6. Thought Criminal

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    2mm9ui.jpg
     
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  7. Egoboy

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    Nope... you?

    Do you equate "have not been borne out" to "likely false"? I do not.

    But Isikoff is 100% correct... Much of the Dossier remains unverified and is likely to remain that way considering the sourcing.

    Also, keep in mind that the quote you have is NOT in the Washington Times article that started this thread.... so I was unaware of it before you added something from a source with more journalistic integrity - USAToday....:roflol:
     
    Egoboy, Jan 1, 2019
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  8. JakeStarkey

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    What camp-steveo is quoting is material from Michael Isikoff, who is saying that he has not seen material supporting specific allegations.

    Of course he has not. Neither have I. Neither has camp_steveo.

    Mueller does not share that material, but he will at the right time.
     
    JakeStarkey, Jan 1, 2019
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    You can bet it wont be facts or evidence.
     
    guavaball, Jan 1, 2019
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  10. camp_steveo

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    Dude, all the leaking and that is your position?
     
    camp_steveo, Jan 1, 2019
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    After this much time.....still nothing. yeah...likely false.
     
    camp_steveo, Jan 1, 2019
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  12. JakeStarkey

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    What leaking from Mueller's camp. :)
     
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  13. Egoboy

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    Well, he did leak that prosecution of Trumps former campaign manager... that one slipped out somehow...
     
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  14. Thought Criminal

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    There has been leaking from somewhere. Consensus believes it is from legal staff of witnesses.

    Still no collusion.
     
    Thought Criminal, Jan 1, 2019
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  15. AmericanNationalist

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    The only thing that can be trusted and verified is official documentation. News media reports, or written manuscripts by a former agent who left his country's service 10+ years ago cannot be trusted and verified.
     
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    Highly probable... good call

    Plenty of collusion, just hasn't made it to Trump himself yet..
     
    Egoboy, Jan 1, 2019
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  17. AmericanNationalist

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    Collusion meaning to affect the 2016 elections, not necessarily illicit business deals. Which are bad, and will probably be prosecuted once he leaves office. But given where we started from and where we are, I'm not necessarily happy. A lot could've gotten done legislative-wise without the noise.
     
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    Only one report of possible attempted collusion.
     
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  19. Phantomknight09

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    You can tell this poster is suffering from a sort of mental break down because they are entering another year where trump is president. Notice how a lot of the people that know trump is going to be imprisoned(lol) set their predictions for a year or two years now. So 8 months go by and they can confidently say “yea he is going to jail by the end of the year”
    “Yea don jr is getting indicted by his birthday, I meant his next year birthday”

    Even saw one user say he is patient enough to wait until 2020 for trump to get his come uppance. I wonder how they don’t see the eerie similarity between them and doomsday cults lol.
     
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    your posting style is lazy snark trolling
     
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    The once MOONIES owned Times is far right and FAKE NEWS!!!
     
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    yah we have heard it all Trump wont last a year Trump will be gone by his second year Trump wont finish his term
    I'm wondering what will the Trump derangement syndrome individuals are going to do when he gets reelected
    They best put the suicide hot line on speed dial and stay away from open 3rd floor windows
     
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    You don't know that is a leak, and if it is, then you have one leak in twenty months that affected nothing.

    Consensus believes if there is any leaking, it is from any one but the legal staff of witnesses.
     
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    The Judge knows something you don't.
     
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    That's high praise coming from you. :)
     
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