Dossier fails the test of time; Trump-Russia collusion claims now called 'likely false'

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  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're free to believe what ever compost you'd like, it still doesn't make you right.
     
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    Yes it is it has to be probable cause and that takes evidence. A police officer has to have evidence to seek a warrant and that evidence has to be confirmed. Unproven hearsay. Comey testify it had not been verified. And we know it was the key piece of evidence presented .
     
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    It was used to spy on the Trump campaign then morphed into a investigation to remove Trump from office. Trump scares the daylights out of people.
     
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    1. It could be used and corroborated by another piece of evidence
    2. It could be the corroborating evidence
    3. You have no idea if it was confirmed or not
    4. You have no idea what parts of it were used, and if they were already confirmed/corboratted

    “Evidence” can be in the form of testimony, which is used as “proof”. The same as the dossier.

    I see you are convienently leaving out that many parts of the Dossier have been proven true.........hmmmm, wonder why that is....
     
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    The uranium mystery hoax as misstated and misapplied with the right wing theorists is laughable.

    Both Canada and the US, if necessary, can suspend Russian ownership.

    The only conspiracy is by the far and alt right. They operate with confirmation bias: everything that confirms their point, they accept; everything that argues against their point, their are biased against.
     
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    Oh, the once-and-still Russians buddies of our alt and far right are now somehow the enemy in this conspiracy theory.
     
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    My claim? I provided you with a hard link that clearly debunks your OP. Sorry.
     
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    Same can be said about your OP.
     
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    There is no substance to the OP. Just a baseless little propaganda piece.
     
  10. JakeStarkey

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    The OP is a complete flop: there is no substantive evidence, none.
     
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    Did you read through the thread?
     
  12. JakeStarkey

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    Yes, Durandal obviously read through the thread and arrived at the right conclusion: the OP is baseless.
     
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    This post is ignorant because it assumes that every part of the Steele Dossier (100% of it) was a total sham. So in a hurry to Trumpagandize the document it neglected to state that some parts of it (Steele Document) were useful. The post is foul and it fails to mention that nobody using the Document ever claimed it was totally (100%) accurate. Claims have been made that the dossier may have been 30%-50% accurate based on corroborating evidence. This post is so hasty to prove that the Steele Dossier is garbage that it self destructs because of a failure to check if any possible corroborating factors existed for some of the Dossier's claims. . Thus the post in trying to prove that the Steele Dossier was pure garbage winds up being the very thing it claims of the Steele Dossier. The stench is making me dizzy.. Show us evidence that every part of the Steele Dozier is garbage.
     
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    Wrong post
     
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    Democrats and their media sycophants will do anything to stop the President from saving the lives of American citizens.
     
  16. JakeStarkey

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    Uneducated voters may believe that other Americans are stopping the President from saving the lives of American citizens, when it is Trump who is refusing to do all he can to save lives.
     
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    Are you Trumpsters still beating this dead horse simply because your collective attention span is so short that you can't remember taht the intelligence agencies started noticing highly irregular behavior, and highly irregular and frequent contacts between senior Trump campaign officials and Russian intelligence assets long before the "dossier" even existed. We remind you every single time you all work this meme.

    Which is why the Moonie Times recycled a two week old story. This isn't even news. And the story was intended to promote a false meme using a deliberately misleading attribution, which the Moonie Times hid behind by trying to pretend it was merely so
    I am right, and you know it. You can't make a fact based arguement. Your false claims were discredited a very long time ago, and I'm not going to waste my time documenting them again for the umpteenth time.

    Since you made the claim, its on you to back it up. I'll be ready to discredit it when you do.
     
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    Who are you responding to?
     
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    The Trumpsters have lost this thread long time ago.
     
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    Your first sentence has been proven untrue time and time again.

    Your second sentence is spot on and remains true today.
     
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    Specious invective all you got left? Did Coney testify the dossier had been verified before it was submitted as evidence to the FISA court and try to answer without the insults this time.
     
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    What did it corroborate? Why did Coney say it was unverified and spacious? I asked what of any importance to Russian collusion or any crime was proven true?
     
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    Quote the parts your link claims have been proven true. Not conjecture not supposition.
     
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    Actually that is exactly what was proven true and back by the trail of the dossier and the emails and text messages we do have that Mueller didn't destroy so we can't read them.
     
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    What concerns me is that particular people within the FBI, used opposition research as one of the reasons to go to the FISA judges, to get permission to go after trump. This reminds me of the old USSR, "show me the man, and I will find the crime".

    I have no doubt the FBI and CIA, went fully political, in favor of hillary and against trump and this should concern every american. That it does not only evidences how partisanship renders people basically, irresponsible, and brain dead. And that too is a concern for people like me.
     

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