Dow plunges after China retaliates on trump's tariffs

I wasn't meaning guns on the street either. The US is trying to go to war at the moment. It just cannot find anyone to stand by them on any level.

Are you not aware of the CZ's intents in the ME re Israel and hence the destruction of Iran. Venezuela I do not know Israel's interest but she does have one.

 

The U.S is continuously trying to make war. The American weapons industry demands it.

* Czech Republic?
* No one wants to destroy Iran. The U.S. wants to control Iran's oil and put its' currency back to the U.S. dollar.

Don't worry, we'll know soon.

 

He doesn't need to try too hard to screw up. He's a natural born idiot. All he has to do is act naturally.

 

The neo cons and the CZ = Christian Zionists have been working together and with Netanyahu since the 90's. Their bible, which is a different one to that which most Christians use, tells them that they must get all Jews into Israel for Armageddon. Jews must rule all of Greater Israel. This will lead to Armageddon when most Jews will be killed but some will at long last 'see the light' and embrace their form of fanatical Christianity. While everyone else is dying and suffering, they will be in Rapture.

They were appalled when there was an idea of a two state solution. Very angry. They started working with Israeli Extremists. They managed to bring through Congress in 95 the bill about moving their Embassy to the undivided capital of Israel. This in effect was the US saying it did not support a two state solution. 7-10 days after this Rabin was assassinated and the two state solution was with him.

They are the people who finance the settlements. In the past 30 years they have also established themselves in American Institutions, in Government, in Seminaries and and in the judiciary.....and they are strong in Trump's Government. As I said, Pence, Pompeo and Bolton to name just three. People write about them having taken over the Republican Party. There are also some right wing Jews among them, one or two quite rich. They seem to ignore that the end game for the Christian Zionists is the death of most of them believing that the CZ's are getting for them what they want - the land of Greater Israel under their rule and the end of Palestinians rights. Because of this they work with them and appear to believe they can stop them actualising the worst of their vision which would probably lead to their death.

They have been involved in Republican foreign policy since Bush Jnr and now they are in office and pulling the strings. This is their day. They intend to give Israel all of the land which their bible says Jews are to have and do not care in any way about the damage done to Muslims who they cannot stand. They also would like the US to be a theocracy which would be a return to all the bits of the bible people claim Muslims do but not Christians. I have read about them talking about stoning people for adultery and death for being gay and so on. They are by the way the people along with Neo Cons who were involved in Africa encouraging them to bring in the death sentence for being gay. They would like the US to be a theocracy of that kind and would like to work for the entire world being of their point of view.

These now are the people the US has making foreign policy and wars. It is fanatical religion, just like ISIS and they have power - they were voted in by a supposed democratic vote. I hear there are about 40 million answering to this kind of fanaticism, though of course keeping a bit quiet about it at the moment though that is changing. What makes them more dangerous is that there is another sixty million or so who they can manage to tempt to vote for their vision, not actually knowing what it is. They have also been spreading this about the world so that I hear Christians from all over are going and pledging their allegiance to Israel frequently without any idea of what they are actually doing. The Church of Scotland having been approached by Palestinian Christians wrote a booklet called the Inheritance of Abraham in which they tried to get them to understand that this is not an accurate understanding of the bible.

The US is particularly mad at the moment because it is being Governed by the Fanatically Religious. Again, nothing is more dangerous. Oil may certainly come into the actions of the US. However this time in addition to that you have the American Christian Right working to first of all remove from the Palestinians all rights, and then Armageddon. I would put a very large bet that that is more important to them than oil but of course oil comes into it too. I hear the Koch Brothers were not happy with Venezuela's treatment of them re oil - and of course they want that but now, the much more important thing is them working for Armageddon. I have to suspect they would not even care about nuclear war as their interest is fanatical religion.

 

You mean hole instead of whole.

There, fixed it for you.

 

The need to change the name from the rapture to the rupture.

 

Since you nothing better to use than personal insults I must be on the right track

 

Another Lilliputian lib with personal insults instead of a logical argument

 

That may be true but U.S. politicians and businessmen are only interested in making a few more gazillion dollars. You can be sure they are not interested in metaphysical chicanery.

 

We cant reverse the stupid trade policy of the last 30 years overnight or without some pain

But failure to do so is worse

 

It is true and you are wrong in this case.

 

Yeh, it's given us the longest period of the greatest prosperity of any nation ever, and turned us into the richest and most secure entity to ever exist.

Oh... the Pain

 

Looking at the vast number of abandoned factories across America and the declining middle class its obvious that globalism does not benefit everyone

 

Only if you like unemployment.

 

You mean the few recent years where our unemployment actually approached TEN percent for a few years? A figure which just about any other nation on Earth would regard as occasion for fireworks and parades?

 

Nothing benefits everyone. Globalism benefits more Americans than parochialism and always has

 

How do you know that the IRS is ok with his returns?

Besides, there are a lot of tax cheats who aren't caught.

Finally, the IRS doesn't catch people whose tax returns display conflicts of interest. That's what we need to find out.

 

You may regret it but I will assure you that most conservatives don't. One of the main problems I have always had with conservatives is that if they can **** people up they are generally more satisfied than pigs in ****. A large component of their whole philosophy is that we are not happy until we are miserable

 

Globalism does not benefit Americans

When we are at the mercy of our biggest enemy as we are now with china then globalism is hurting America

 

You obviously do not understand conservatives

We dont enjoy seeing the farmers suffer

But we dont like seeing former factory workers in unemployment lines or working as door greeters at walmart either

 

Or you could lose your proverbial shirt when it goes even lower.

The other shoe has to drop sometime and stocks have been overvalued for some time now.

 

How are we at China's mercy?

 

This is an example of how the smart investors make money when the market goes down

And how not-so-smart investors vote for democrats and a guaranteed income

 

You are an example of it

According to libs America must keep buying chinese products or they will raise hell with our farmers

Meaning that you are fine with allowing china to dictate trade policy to the US