Eat Less Red Meat, Scientists Said. Now Some Believe That Was Bad Advice.

I support your decision as long as you do not try to infringe on my rights to consume meat of any kind that I want and can afford..

I heard this Vegan once on a late night talk show where she stated that animals have "Constitutional" rights. That was some sick chick.

 

Naw, I wouldn't try to tell anyone what to eat. It's a life choice I made.

I have family including one of my kids who eat meat and that's fine.

I never bring it up but if someone asks, I'll tell them why I made that choice.

 

The opinions on what types of foods to consume is as wide as diets. We had Atkins, grapefruit, no fruit, fiber, South Beach, and Son of a Beach diets. Now thete is Noom or Moom or is it Doom diet that is being pushed . It has become like belief in religion there are millions of opinions. We all know that opinions are like _____ s everyone has one.

 

Obviously what you said here is correct. Long term weight loss and maintaining a lower weight requires a change of behavior.

 

notice it was heavily processed foods they wanted you to eat.... because those were the foods corporations wanted you to buy

now granted, at the time they may not of known the processed foods were so harmful, they probably thought grains, sugar and seed oils were just fine, that a calorie was just a calorie, so they thought their lies hurt no one... now we know better - but now they can't admit they were wrong, that will take years to fade out now so the new people can blame it on the older people in power

 

actually part of the problem is the fat storage hormone insulin, people keep that high all day, if you slowly sip on a fruit juice or smoothy throughout the day, your insulin will be high all day, thus you will be blocked from burning fat, thus more hungry when your sugar in your blood finally start to drop, you don't start burning fat until you lower that insulin

slowly snacking all day will prevent you from losing weight too, timing of when you eat is also important

sugar is addictive... and it raises your insulin, which prevents you from accessing your fat storage, which means your body will tell the brain to eat as the cells are litterally starving

 

The Bill Gates diet.

Warren Buffet only eats fast food burgers and a few Cokes every day.

 

They can eat their Babies

 

You must not know anything about Atkins. Atkins aims for a nutritionally balanced ketogenic diet. That hardly amounts to just eating less. It is a radical lifestyle change.

 

hey, eat what you want, I do not give an excrement
That said,it appears that this researcher has been an agribusiness shill
Including publishing a study saying sugar aint bad for you

we kinda know that processed foods often have health impacts.... which this researcher also contradicts

so I am not giving this guy a lot of credibility until there are more studies confirming his results
But, if you prefer a diet of hot dogs and hamburger.... go for it

 

I eat red meat, I will always eat red meat.

If it is illegal I will hunt my own. If they fine me for this I won't pay it. If they jail me I'll hunger strike until they give me red meat.

Thankfully, I will have enough strength as a meat eater to hunger strike for a fair while.

If they hang me I'll donate my body to the meat eating community.

 

I primarily eat vegan and the food is absolutely delicious. I have fish for two meals per week as the exception. I am 100% in good nutritional health as I need to be for my job. You have no idea what you’re talking about and the fact some people don’t eat red meat throws you into a tizzy.

Who the hell cares how other people eat? Why does it bother you if someone is a vegan? Does it bother you that people are lactose intolerant and don’t drink milk? What a stupid thing to get upset about.

 

Extortion, or just reciprocal back-scratching?

 

at least you understand that eating meat is important for your health

the worst vegans are the fruititarians... talk about asking for health problems

 

no one says hot dogs are good for you, but real fresh meat is in fact very good for ones health

be like saying if you prefer to eat processed seed oil and refined sugar cause your vegan, have at it - trying to equate healthy meat eaters with hot dogs is disingenuous

now the hamburger is not the issue, it's the bun that is the problem and the sugar in the ketchup, ect..... (fast food burgers may not even be 100% meat, they could have grain filler added to them)

 

There are ways to get the proper nutrients without eating meat, you just have to be conscious of what your diet lacks and ensure your meeting the requirements through supplements or different foods.

I require a lot of calories and protein so the fish helps with that. I’m not opposed to eating meat I just prefer to eat as clean as possible.

 

There are some questions surrounding this latest red meat conclusion. So, take the results with a grain of salt. These studies depend on factual reporting by the people in the study. Do you remember everything you ate last week?

The CDC just concluded a study where participants checked into their hospital and diet was strictly controlled. One group was high fat, low carb. Another group was low fat, high carb. The last group was fed mostly processed foods. There wasn't much difference between the first two groups, but the third group ate about 500 more calories per day. The more processed foods they ate, the more they wanted.

Eat sensibly; include fruits and vegetables.

 

sure, you can drink too much water too... but not a reason not to drink water...

I do agree though that many studies go to far to prove something is bad for someone, I could easily show water is bad for you if I wanted too, and if society "wanted" to believe it, they would

 

yes, the same is true of studies that show meat is bad, they do not take into account all the other variables.... so we agree there

the point of the study is that there is no proof that red meat is bad for you... which is true - there is plenty of evidence that high sugar\insulin is bad for you in the long run though

low fat processed food is often filled with sugar to replace the fat.... bad for ones health, but corporations love this as it's cheaper to make - course you have to be careful when they do add fat to processed food, it's often processed seed oils nowadays - best just to avoid processed food as corporation do not have our health as one of their top concerns

 

the fish also helps with the low b12 and omega 3's in a vegan diet

I do think someday artificial foods will be able to meet all our dietary needs that meat fulfills today, but I will let other be the guinea pigs, the problem today is the grains, seed oils and sugar that are in most processed food stuffs

the military is doing much study on the keto diet, the health benefits can not be ignored - and yes, vegans can do a keto diet, it's just harder

 

This is what the researcher said

“Based on these reviews, we cannot say with any certainty that reducing red meat or processed meat will prevent cancer, diabetes or heart disease," Johnston said.

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Fresh air

I do not take all recommendations seriously
I eat eggs, I buy and use butter not margarine, and I regularly buy a half gallon of HEAVY CREAM

I am not giving you or anyone else dietary recommendations

I do no think I made the comparison or expressed the opinion that you have attributed to me

what I WAS TRYING to do was to point out that author of the study cited in the original post has a somewhat dubious record of impartiality on these issues for reasons that I summarized and which we can more fully discuss if you are particularly interested in going to full battle mode in defense of the methods and background of this researcher... which I doubt would be productive for either of us.... but I am always happy to defend what I write.... so let me know how you want to proceed

yes, I agree, it is a very complicated issue where we all have to do our own due diligence .... It sounds as if you have done this for yourself

as I said, I take all such research with a massive grain of skepticism... I eat and enjoy red meat without health concerns. Generally, I think we need to be skeptical about fad diets where we focus on eating one food (like red meat for example). And although I try to reduce artificial ingredients.., I am happy to have a hot dog or a burger now and then. I respect everyone’s right to make the decisions for themselves
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which is true, just because hotdogs do not cause cancer, doesn't mean they are as healthy as say a grass fed ribeye steak or wild caught fish

the study counters all the anti-meat studies out there, meat is good for you, processed meat like bacon is not as bad for you as some want you to believe, but I would not go on a all bacon diet

I also agree diet is complicated, most will never get it, and there is so much conflicting biased data out there, makes it hard for most to understand