Erdogan threatens Europe with 3.6 million new refuges if they continue to criticize " Peace Spring"

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  1. notme

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    ah, personal attacks.
     
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    I only listen to NPR and I'm rarely in my car that late anyway
     
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    Did the Kurds EVER have a homeland? Their webpage makes no reference to such that I saw.

    I do recall reading that no less than Saladin was "of Kurdish ethnicity"
     
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    The Kurds always existed and were known I believe as mountain people. Nation building started in Europe in the 19th century - or so I believe, and then they imposed this concept of ethnicities within defined boundaries on the rest of the world. I know that when the lines were being drawn in the sand at the end of WWI, Lawrence of Arabia was very fond of the Arabs and wanted them to have the oil in Iraq rather than the Kurds.

    Other than that I don't know much except for what they suffered in Turkey.
     
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    Erdogan exists because of Vladimir Putin, and yet Putin couldn't stop him, so there was no way Turkey could have been stopped. They would simply have done what they're doing now. They would send in the Free Syria Army that we had armed and supported, and letting them do the dirty work of massacring and ethnically cleansing the Kurds and Christians. If the Americans didn't leave, it would have caused turmoil in Nato, and there would have been dead American soldiers.

    Erdogan said that Turkey will either fight and survive or it will cease to exist - and he's right. There is no way the 20 million Kurds could remain a part of Turkey if given more rights. More than likely they would try to unite with their brethren in Iraq and Iran. Turkey's aggression is not just in Syria where it's partially justified, and where Erdogan is more or less controlled by Russia - but in the Eastern Mediterranean and Aegean so he could grab the oil and gas reserves. That's where the war will move to next.

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    The US had no benefit from the Middle East, but France and Britain did. They needed the oil, and they wanted the gas so they wouldn't be dependent on Russia. I know that after we had committed an offense towards Russia, a secret ally military operation center in Syria with agents from the US, UK, Fr., KSA and Israel was bombed. Why were they there?

    Today the 'moderate' Syrian terrorists that we supported and armed, are the ones Turkey is using for its genocidal ethnic cleansing campaign against the Kurds and Christians in northern Syria..
     
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    Erdogan exists because he did well as a major of Istanbul. He also managed to have real high economic growth in Turkey. The GDP PPP went from 1,181.6 to 2,173.2 in 10 years. That's why people keep on voting for him. He doesn't need Russia to rig the elections.



    Syria is right next to Israel. Dunno how you think the US has no interests here.
     
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    Nice propaganda spin there. When I said Erdogan exists because of Vladimir Putin, I'm talking about the coup and that it was Putin who saved his life - as well as the life of his family. Putin has an odd habit of doing things like that. He saved Yanukovich's life as well. Maybe if the Democrats get their way, he might save Trump some day.


    I didn't realize Israel was one of our States? Have they been paying their taxes lately? :confuse:

    So you're saying that American boys should be put in harm's way, and that it was okay for Syria to be destroyed and for Europe to be swarmed with refugees to satisfy Netanyahu's paranoia?



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    Nonsense. Erdogan made his own political party, and subsequently won the elections in a major way. And he dealt with the coup against him on his own.

    Do you deny the US has a special interest in Israel? Really?
    lol
     
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    I came across accounts of Vladimir Putin saving Erdogan during the coup, and even one where Erdogan was taken to the Russian base in Syria. I wasn't quite sure though if it was true, since there were so many different stories going about. I did read though that Vladimir Putin's friend Alexander Dugan was stuck in the airport in Ankara when the coup occurred - and that seemed a little bit too coincidental for the story not to be true.
     
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    You go read your fakebook news. See that I care.
     

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