Gaza: From someone who's seen for himself.

Who bragged, on video, about derailing the Oslo peace process? Not the Palestinians. And who is also guilty of breaking cease-fires, again admitted-to on video?

 

Why would Israel accept a position of negociated weakness? They should not and did not. The Islamo's conduct themselves with malice even in the supossed adherence to a treaty. Israel should level Gaza and destroy Hamas.

 

Defeat? In your dreams mate!

 

Utter nonsense! Not one of Israel's proposals came without totally unacceptable pre-conditions which nobody in Palestine's position would find remotely reasonable. If Israel tried what you're suggesting it would be the end of Israel. The Arab states would not sit by and watch Gaza being levelled-and neither, for that matter, would Europe or America. Israel knows this very well.

 

Even though they may want to do this and even though you clearly would support them. No nation can live alone and Israel would be totally isolated, perhaps still with Egypt and Saudi Arabia as her friends. Possibly that is who she deserves. Doing what you suggest would probably be the death of Israel if she has not already set that in motion. What you do not understand is that sometimes you can lose even when you are the military stronger, even when you have the ability to do crimes against humanity which is what you are suggesting.

 

Of course defeat! In reality. He/she/it ran away crying "I'll put you on ignore" (sniffel-blubber-whine). Though he/she/it did not benefit from my correct reality based opinion. Oh well, his/her/its loss.

 

Pure Jew hatred and propaganda blather. Israel is acting like a country fighting for its life, because it is. Your darned right I support that.

 

Well, when you're confronted with a brick wall of obstinate denial and ignorance, sometimes the simplest way of stopping the pain is to stop beating your head against the wall...

 

It did not have to relate to Jews. It related most of all to you and how Israel is acting and your desire for Israel to commit crimes against humanity. That you responded in the way you did goes with what you showed earlier. You are clearly very aggressive and clearly flamebaiting.

Israel is not now and never has fought for her life. Talk about the man who knows nothing but propaganda - and of course a desire to commit crimes against humanity.

 

OK. Lets play that out. Who murdered 3 innocent Israeli boys for absolutely no reason whatsoever? Islamo's. Who fired the first missiles into Israel? Islamo's. Who rejected peace and ceasefire overtures repeatedly? Islamo's. Who hides their weapon platforms next to schools, hospitals, and residential neighborhoods placing their own citizens and families at risk and then snivel that there are children killed to the stupid people of the world that will believe them as this thread so clearly demonstrates? Islamo's.

 

"Fighting for its life"? The nuclear-armed and most powerful military in the region, and you think its in trouble from Hamas' pitiful firecrackers?

 

What crimes against humanity would those be? Dead children? A condition that exists because Hamas places their weapon systems, which are legitimate targets, in places where children are. It is the Islamo's who commit these atrocities against themselves, But they do it because they know that there are softheaded and softhearted people in the world that prefer emotional perception over reality. Hummm...I guess they are right about that.

 

How do you think all those refugees in Gaza (70% of the people) came to be hemmed up in Gaza?

Hitler claimed the people that he penned up in the Warsaw ghetto were dangerous, militaristic criminals...

 

And from the "Have no perception of the real and global danger that Israel faces in a world where there is decided preference for their destruction" files we get this inobservant submission.

 

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genocide. Ethnic cleansing is also a crime against humanity.

Do some proper study and come back and we can talk when you know what you are talking about rather than your intellect being defeated by gorging on gross propaganda and xenophobia

 

Yep.. that's the claim of the Zionists.. The Likud couldn't stay in power if they didn't keep Jewish people scared to death.

 

Ah, the attempted reversal! Nice try. The palestinians are being armed from with out and Israel are forced to fight this proxy war with all of Islam.

 

All I can do is introduce reality, and have no control if it is rejected or not, as in this case. Educated? It is clear that Islam is at war with Israel and all humanity as Islam so clearly demonstartes repeatedly the whole world over.

 

And from the "Reject reality and truth especially when it is obvious and blatant" files we are subjected to this little gem.

 

Most Muslims don't care about Israel, but they do care about the Palestinians and the Lebanese.. and they want the killing to stop. They also object to the thousands of landmines that Israel plants..

 

I think there is some truth in that with what has happened to the Israeli people in that they are allowing what is happening.

http://jfjfp.com/?p=63107

I remember some time ago when American and British Jews were trying to think of how they could get Israel to change. They mentioned what they are talking about there. That they are always living in crises mode when they do not need to be any more. Their hope was to try and get them to start living in value mode feeling that then their behaviour would change. I think you are right this fear that they are always in danger, which apparently is also reflected in their education, keeps people compliant or angry and stops them thinking clearly and to be frank ethically, as she says about justice.

 

Balderdash! Islamo leadership has declared that Israel will be wiped off the map. If push came to shove they would take up arms against Israel in a heart beat. As long as Israel exists there will be war, and Israel will continue to win as they are doing now. Landmines? Israel must protect their borders from enemy incursions of murderous intent.

 

Zio leadership leading them down a long road to extinction, if they have any sense they would create a lasting fair piece while they can. When America is able to provide her own energy, she will slowly pull away from the middle east. When the Islamic civil war is over who do you think will be first on their list?

 

I love Islamo propaganda! Israel is winning and winning big, as is always the case. There is no such thing as a 'fair peace' as far as the islamo's are concerned because it would leave Israel in existence. Except for Israel, the USA should pull out of the middle east and allow these adherents of the religion of hate, murder, misogyny, and all variations of injustice, to kill each other with abandon and their own innate malice.