GERMANY JOINS CHORUS CASTING DOUBT ON TRUMP ADMINISTRATION CLAIM THAT IRAN WAS BEHIND ATTACK ON OIL

Why does USA support terrorism?

 

As logical as all the US lies before.

 

Once again, simply untrue. I wish it was, but it isn't.

If we start this war, you all are just going to have to accept it as a new fact of the world you have no control over.

Like I've said, you're leaving yourselves, and the world, at our mercy.

 

We did not accept your coup in egypt and changed it with force against your interests.

 

In case you didn't know it, the USA has a far bigger history of blowing up vessels such as Flight 655, fomenting terrorism in Iran such as the 1953 Iranian coup, and invading countries such as Iraq, Afghanistan, and Vietnam.

 

Public support is needed at home if Trump does this. If it isn't that would be political suicide. If Trump can get Iran to take the bait and do something stupid then maybe the public, and not just his base, will support it.

It will take more that downing an unarmed drone that was spying on them in the first place.

 

Nobody in their right mind would believe the lunacy that Iran was behind the FAKE NEWS attacks. Assad's FAKE NEWS gas "attacks" which never happened were more credible than this garbage news by the Trump regime.

 

There is only one motivation for that = war profits.

 

But we're the good guys.

 

And Trump also thinks if he can start a war with public sentiment(not just his base) he will be unbeatable in 2020, which he will be. But yeah the war profits are huge. So will the bill that the tax-payers are going to get.

 

Hah, "our coup." Mubarak was under extreme pressure at home, and Obama simply asked that he not run again.

The real coup, of course, was the rise of Sisi.

 

There entire strategy has been to create friction between our nations that will spark a war.

 

Morsi was supported by USA. Sisi was brought into power by Germany. 1st state visit Sisi did was Germany.

In that time Syria and Libya went down in Chaos. Germany feared if Egypt collapses, evrything is lost. Some say it was first time that Germany used all its influence to stop that process

 

Tentatively and inconsistently.

Where did you get that idea?

 

From al Sisi himself. Who thanked Germany for its support and his first visit was to Germany. Germany hundred of millions € into his coup. Merkel wanted the military to take over, to prevenz egypt falling into chaos. Germany supplied weapons, money and intel support.

If we have something then its money and weapons.

We must stop to act like an gigantic switzerland and active use our power to reach our interests. al Sisi was a start.

 

False.

His first trip was a tour of african country starting with Algeria.

Africa[edit]

El-Sisi made an African tour, his first foreign visit since taking office a short visit to Algeria, seeking support to counter Islamist militancy in North Africa.[133] Shortly before Sisi arrived in Malabo, Equatorial Guinea to participate in the 23rd ordinary session of the African Union summit where he gave his speech blaming the AU for freezing Egypt's membership a year before. El-Sisi also announced the establishment of an Egyptian partnership agency for Africa's development.[134] He also concluded the tour with a few hours' visit to Sudan.[135]

 

He said that he owed his success to Germany? Doesn't sound like an intelligent thing to say, even if true.

Of course, he didn't say it, you're just making all of this up.

 

Since Trump passed on the chance for war when he had a perfect opportunity, it doesn't look like he's trying to start one with or without public sentiment. Its worth noting as well that since Iran was
caught removing a limpet mine from a tanker, there have been no more attacks. More proof that the 'Trump MUST have done it' theory is little more than hatred.

 

He doesn't need to go into this with a mind to start a war, he just needs his advisors to convince him to create enough friction with Iran that a war occurs.

 

He said he thanked Germany for its support. Why you think his first state visit was to Germany and why Germany send so much cash and weapons to egypt?

 

Meaningless.

The truth is simple: If any foreign countries had any hand at all in the fall of Morsi and rise of Sisi, it was Saudi Arabia and the UAE, and I'm not convinced that they were instrumental in events.

The Egyptian army was, and remains, the most powerful institution in the country. That it successfully seized power has nothing to do with Germany at all.

 

Yeah, guess the 185 million euro transaction and the delivery of weapons was just 4 fun.

 

After the coup, and you sell less arms to al-Sisi than the Americans, Russians, or French.

 

He pulled out of the Iran deal and is starting sanctions. Of course Trump isn't going to strike yet. This is just the beginning of a narrative trying to be painted to warm the public up to the idea of war.

 

What kind of war do you anticipate? It won't be a land war. Iran has 80 million people (twice that of Iraq) and an army of 420,000. The US army numbers 470,000, plus 180.000 marines. The majority of
these are support, not combat, troops. We already have troops deployed in Germany, Korea and Afghanistan. The largest number of troops we could deploy in the Iraq war was 140,000 - and we had
great trouble maintaining that number. That is simply not enough to take on Iran. So a ground war with Iran is extremely unlikely. The US definately has more airpower than Iran, but Iran has highly
sophisticated anti-aircraft defenses they have been working on for decades. Iran has always known that an attack from the air is the most likely course for the US to take. This means it is likely some
of any attacking aircraft will be lost, and the pilots most likely captured - creating a nightmare hostage situation for the US. That leaves drones and cruise missiles. While these can cause damage of
course, they are hardly likely to be enough to cause Iran to change its ways. The Islamic Republic has executed tens of thousands of its own people - both legally and extralegally - is is not going to
worry about a few civilian casualties. I have said several times that there will not be a war between the US and Iran, that Trump has been bluffing and Iran knows it. Trump's recall of an air strike
after theshooting down of an American drone shows that he does not want a long, drawn-out, costly conflict - which a war with Iran is certain to be. I believe Iran has the evilest government on earth,
but war is not the way to go.