GERMANY JOINS CHORUS CASTING DOUBT ON TRUMP ADMINISTRATION CLAIM THAT IRAN WAS BEHIND ATTACK ON OIL

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  1. Professor Peabody

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    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/10/politics/iran-attempted-seize-british-tanker/index.html

    The EU needs to be on their own in the Gulf.
     
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    It wasn't ratified by congress.
     
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    Did you have some support for this claim or should we just take your word for it and call it a day ?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Flamebait much ? Most of your post are completely lacking in substance so perhaps you are just projecting your issues onto others.

    Help can be found here. "Projection is a psychological defense mechanism in which individuals attribute characteristics they find unacceptable in themselves to another person. " https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/psychpedia/projection
     
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    Don't forget Britain - and the body that does nuclear oversight. When everyone else differs with your perspective "sans a few neocon politicians with delusions of grandeur" perhaps it is not they who are delusional :)
     
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    You are out of step with the conversation

    CourtJester claims that iran has no intentions of building nukes

    Which is nonsense as I was trying to point out

    Then you butt in with no coue about whats going on
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You could be right - I did kind of jump in. Iran was working on building a nuke so obviously then had the intention - and likely still do.

    This however does not change the fact that they were in compliance with the deal - at least according to everyone that matters.
     
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    I dont deny that iran was in compliance with a sweetheart deal that only delayed them going nuclear by 10 years

    In terms of world history thsts just the blink of an eye
     
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    And under what article in the Constitution would you claim it had to be ratified by Congress?
     
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    Well an additional ten years from being nowhere near a bomb would be a lot better than where we are now.

    And you have yet to post any actual evidence they had a program to develop a bomb. In fact even the Israelis couldn't find any nor could any other government!
     
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    All treaties have to be ratified by congress. Executive orders, like the one obama used, have no legal status once the one who signed it is out of office.
     
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    First it wasn't a treaty and second it wasn't an executive order. Look it up!
     
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    Yes it was.

    And yes it wasn't binding until it was ratified by congress. No deal a president makes with another country are binding unless the congress sign off on it.
     
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    CourtJester has proven himself correct since you have not been able to provide or link to one piece of evidence that Iran had a nuclear weapons program anywhere near when the agreement was signed. How you can kerp arguing with no facts to support your position is beyond my comprehension.
     
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    If ignorance is bliss then tis folly to be wise.
     
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    LOL now you are defending your own post? You just outed yourself as a confuse sockpuppet!
    You forgot which alias you were using when replying LOL
     
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    So when slandered we are not allowed to defend ourselves. You must be a Trumpie! The post mentioned And slandered my position so I am allowed to reply..
     
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    You are both wrong

    The reason for the nuclear agreement was to delay iran from building nuclear weapons
     
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    10 years is nothing

    The only upside was that obama would be out of office when the folly of his policy became obvious
     
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    Except you still can't provide any evidence that they were. The actual purpose was at no cost to the US or other signatories to provide more time should Iran decide to go nuclear.
     
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    Shoo.
     
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    Since obama refused to submit it as a binding treaty to the people through the senate he did not get confirmation

    Thats why trump could so easily tear it up
     
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    His folly and the other signatories. Everyone in the world is a fool except Trump!
     

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