Horrible, Horrible Day’: Multiple Fatalities At Molson Coors Facility In Milwaukee, Mayor Says

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  1. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

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    You said:

    It's a small point. My proposal remains intact. I grant you your response, but no-one can legislate anything against a person who will float the law.

    Make the Law as I suggested, enforce it as I suggested, and let's see. Yes I know I am dreaming. But, it is a worthy point nonetheless Regulate and control gun use as much as you regulate and control vehicle use. Why not? What do you fear?
     
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    so you want nothing at all as long as it stays on your own property correct?

    You do not need a drivers license, registration, proof of insurance, licence plates, or anything to own and drive a car/truck on your own property. So this is what you want for guns? No background checks, no registering, no waiting periods etc as long as the gun stays on your property?
    its only for open carry/concealed carry that you want similar registration for?
     
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    Good to see you agree that you cannot demonstrate the necessity for, or efficacy of, a requirement for training, licensing and registration as a precondition for the exercise of the right to keep and bear arms.
    Thank you
    You only call it propaganda because you know it is in an accurate description of how the anti gun left uses the blood of innocents to push its agenda, and you know it effectively illustrates the opportunistic, uncaring, and ghoulish behavior of same.
     
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    Absent a demonstration of the necessity for, and efficacy of, a requirement for training, licensing and registration as a precondition for the exercise of the right to keep and bear arms, these preconditions to the exercise of said rights infringe upon same.
    The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
    Thus, your statement is false.
     
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    Yet using the subjective word, we already allow some infringement.
     
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    A given restriction is not held as an infringement if it is demonstrated to be both necessary and effective.
     
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    If the argument is firearms should be treated as cars, then the restrictions we lay on cars can only apply when a firearm is used on public property.
    Assuming, of course, the necessity and efficacy of these restrictions can be demonstrated.
     
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    Surprised a facility of that size doesn't have armed security.
     
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    Which are permits.
    Owning guns in the USA is a right. Driving is a privilege. Quite a difference.
     
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    Only to drive on public roads. No license required for driving on private land.

    And I already have a license to carry a concealed handgun in public.

    A database of firearm owners is illegal.
     
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    Illegal until made legal
     
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    We don't have unfettered firearms.
     
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    It matters why? When you are dead, you are dead.
     
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    Like... slavery... prohibitions on 1st trimester abortions...only allowing men to vote... only allowing whites to vote....
    Right?
     
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    If you believe in a free society then you must want to legalize all drugs, right?
     
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    Well there may not be a law to properly operate and train with firearms, but intelligent people do, due to the nature of the weapon.

    Learning how to use a gun is the smart way. My dad taught me at a fairly young age.
     
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    Will training, mandatory or otherwise, serve to prevent incidents such as this from occurring? If so, then explain how such will occur. If not, explain why the proposal has any merit to make it worth suggesting in the first place.
     
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    Why are you projecting. ??
     
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    Gotta love democrat controlled cities with extreme gun laws that are always at the center of these shootings. But never let a tragedy - that benefits your agenda - go to waste.
     
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    Education, training and practice are good things.
    A legal requirement for same, as a precondition to the exercise of the right, violates the constitution.
     
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    Why do those who support firearm-related restrictions choose to project their fears onto others? Why do they always assume the worst in individuals simply because said individuals choose to exercise a constitutional right?
     
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    Why would you want legalized drugs just because you want a free society? Don't be silly. You know exactly what is meant by a free society. Most don't want legalized murder either. This isn't the jungle. A free society still needs laws to follow so we don't become that jungle.
     
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    I believe the gov has no constitutional authority to have it hand in it. I'd rather see corrections $ and resources go towards treatment and adrressing the root cause of why people do drugs.
     
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    The perp is described ONLY as a '51 year old former employee' who had been fired for some reason(s). No name, and no picture. You know what that usually means....
     
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    The incident does not support The Narrative.
     

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