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House Democrats zero in on 'abuse of power' in Trump impeachment inquiry

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  1. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Democrats are making up the rules and ignoring precedent and basic due process considerations upon which our justice system is based. That is sad.
     
    AFM, Oct 22, 2019
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    Yeah, I'm sure they want some good heat reflection when they cook that orange Turkey.
     
    Cubed, Oct 22, 2019
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    The dems don't believe in our justice system....they are acting more and more like Pol Pot daily
     
    struth, Oct 22, 2019
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    The Democrats are making up the rules and ignoring precedent and basic due process considerations upon which our justice system is based.
     
    AFM, Oct 22, 2019
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    Contempt of Congress? Lol too funny.

    Dude, until the Congress proves in Courts that their subpoenas and demands trump SCOTUS recognized executive privilege this is nothing more than a partisan Congressional temper tantrum triggered by the realization that the Executive branch is co-equal and not subordinate to the legislative branch. Lol

    Can they impeach based on this? Sure.... will it be beyond pathetic, absurd and laughable - no doubt about that.
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Democrats are making up the rules and ignoring precedent and basic due process considerations upon which our justice system is based.
     
    AFM, Oct 22, 2019
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    The Democrats are making up the rules and ignoring precedent and basic due process considerations upon which our justice system is based.
     
    AFM, Oct 22, 2019
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    It's right on. In a conversation ~ 100 words are spoken per minute. A typed page contains ~ 500 words. Do the arithmetic - 6 pages.
     
    AFM, Oct 22, 2019
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    And very similar to all the banana republics in South America. Understandable since they are espousing socialism.
     
    AFM, Oct 22, 2019
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    Exactly - Same thing we saw with their Collusion Hoax.

    If at first you don't succeed, try try again...

    [​IMG]

    "Progressives" never change...
     
    Talon, Oct 22, 2019
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    No they're not... just adding a necessary step required by a corrupt DOJ head...

    It'll all be made clear in the end or people won't support it...
     
    Egoboy, Oct 22, 2019
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    You don't try to do anything...

    You investigate, look at the evidence then proceed with what you think is right based on what the evidence.
     
    Robert E Allen, Oct 22, 2019
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    She's right, if for no other reason than the attention span of the average American. We're busy living, with all the stress that goes with that. Keep it simple and the public doesn't have to do a boatload of research to understand it. Only one high crime is needed to impeach. The rest, if indictable, can wait until he's out of office.
     
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    Except that

    A) Actual word count of spoken words is about 2000. Divided by 5 (yes, not 6) pages that's only 400 (missing a few eh?)

    B) This actual statement on the first page of the "transcript"
    (See the bolded portion? Evidently that's the actual policy, not this 'ellipses' BS that the WH put out)
     
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    Breaking news, "Trump forged the transcript"....is in the Technology section of the paper, no less? Bwahaha

    Are you for real? If they themselves are utterly embarrassed to put this amazing discovery on the front page, if Schitt is less embarrassed to make up his own transcript than to ask for the "real" one, if they have to bury what would finally be a real "smoking gun" in the TECHNOLOGY section of their paper/site.. .

    Dude this is for the consumption by true believers like you, not for anyone else lol
     
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    Why not make it clear to the people now ?? The answer is that the Democrats have nothing and they are hiding that.
     
    AFM, Oct 22, 2019
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    Basically off topic.

    They will do everything you say, but again, do you limit the investigation to a single topic? Obviously, the House could investigate Trump for impeachable offenses until the cows come home, but @Sleep Monster summed it up for me in post #63 - Only 1 high crime is needed to impeach... and they already have it...

    Meaning Nancy is correct....
     
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    People speak 2000 words per minute ??? During a conversation ??? Who are these people - auctioneers ??
     
    AFM, Oct 22, 2019
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    What crime is that ??? If that is a done deal then why not open up to the public ???
     
    AFM, Oct 22, 2019
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    Here's another article with some actual ideas from members..... It's not an easy call...

    SNIP
    Each lawmaker I spoke with had a slightly different take on what the articles should contain.

    “Mueller all but said [Trump] committed a crime,” Representative Gerry Connolly of Virginia told me. “I don’t think we can afford to ignore that. That sets a precedent.”

    Representative Pramila Jayapal of Washington told me the articles should address Ukraine; Trump’s “obstruction of Congress,” related to both the Ukraine scandal and Mueller’s investigation; and emoluments. “Those are the top three,” said Jayapal, who is on the Judiciary Committee.

    If there are 10 articles, “one or two might deal with Ukraine,” said Representative Ro Khanna of California. But “any articles that are referred should be broad and inclusive.”
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/10/impeachment-trump-democrats/600448/

    I think any Obstruction of Congress should include all 2019 actions, from McGahn to the Cippilone letter...

    Emoluments I'm just not sure about as an article...
     
    Egoboy, Oct 22, 2019
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    What is the crime? What code section?
     
    struth, Oct 22, 2019
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    I get it's not easy when you are shooting at clouds....but if there was an actual high crime or misdemeanor, it would be....it was for Nixon and Clinton....hard here because nothing supports your conclusions
     
    struth, Oct 22, 2019
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    Well you investigate what you are telling everyone you are looking for.. everything else is off the table.. otherwise you're just fishing not investigating.
     
    Robert E Allen, Oct 22, 2019
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    The Dems have been "fishing" since 2016, they even got Ukraine and the Brits on board to fish for them as well.
     
    struth, Oct 22, 2019
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    Get over it lol
     
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