How Feminism has Backfired leaving a generation of spinsters

I think most women would dislike a man like you, those conservative women dislike or even hate you too which is the reason why you are not getting any!

 

Don't be too quick ... who said they're not getting any?

It's the Feminist they have issues with ...

 

This thread seems very dependent on the male provider myth. As it is a huge part of our socialization it is understandable why many in our culture (men and women) view sexual relationships the way they do. Men can live without women and women can live without men, but most of us don't want to. Those with solitary sexual lifestyles, whether they have lots of sex or none, are usually unhappy in some critical way.

 

There were amny times in my career that I made more than my wife, now she make more.

It all goes in the same account ... her's

 

There is also a way to get around this feminist thinking. Go overseas, where aging men are a virtue rather than looked at as creepy perverted men. Infact, overseas, you can actually get away with complementing a much younger woman without being labeled a pervert or creep. In America there is a war against masculinity and men in general. Men are no longer appreciated in the U.S. And being a man is even less appreciated. Where as, being a man in the sense of being a leader, a worker, a protector of the family overseas is still appreciated by women. As I say this, liberal women are rolling their eyes. They view men like this as abusers, which is far from the case in the majority of men. Gender rolls are lost in America. Men, are no longer appreciated for their virtues. In fact, they are looked down on for them. Being a masculine leader of men is now a negative. The liberalization of america will eventually weaken it to the point where it barely has the resolve to defend itself. I hope, buy that time, we have not weakened our military to the point of no return.

 

The woman who told him that is overseas.

 

Splutters coffee all over keyboard...

 

Real women? What do you know about real women? You're not even a woman of any description, are you? So why are you taking it upon yourself to dictate what women are or should be?

 

Thats just been my expirience while living overseas for 10 years.

 

Gays have more right to speak on it than you, as they find themselves on the receiving end of ignorant discrimination, prejudice and unequal treatment in law and in society just as women did. There is common ground between the two.

 

The OP never said he had a problem with contributing equally. What he was arguing against was the feminist concept of two people in a relationship contributing identically. The difference is subtle, yet important.

I have taken advantage of feminism's tearing down of social constructs in a different way than the OP - I have used the current "hook up" culture and its offshoots to make sure that my wife takes care of my needs. She gets what she wants - stable, loving, contributing man, and I get what I want, because we know that, as a physically non-hideous man with a friendly personality and a successful career, I have opportunities to get what I want elsewhere. We don't treat it as a threat or a problem, we treat it as what it is: a recognition that we both need to work at our relationship to keep it healthy, for ourselves and our kids.

That being said, if I didn't have her, I would certainly progress as the OP has, using women's sexual "liberation" to get what I want, and get a lot of it.

 

I don't think we read the same opening post. What i got from it is women who don't get married by 40 are going to regret it, while men will be picking up young beautiful ladies till their death beds. There was also a bunch of anecdotal junk that some how also proves feminism had failed in his opinion.

 

Oh boy, you've invoked my wrath on this one.

You claim that all women who are feminist and have great jobs must live alone...do you have no sense of logic at all?

I'm serious. Is it just that modern conservatives have no logic at all when it comes to social issues? Do they really believe that all women who have careers have some magic fate that will "keep" them from getting men? For someone who is against radical Islam, you certainly sound like a fundamentalist Muslim; especially those who are still convinced that the earth is flat.

Personally,I know plenty of women who have fantastic careers and who also have husbands and I myself would rather be in a relationship with a woman who has a career and leads the relationship. I see nothing wrong with that and, again, there are millions of women who have successful careers and also have successful personal lives and relationships. You act like citing one case proves that everyone must be like her.

I definitely agree with TByrant here, the OP here so clearly confuses loneliness on the part of some people with women "needing" men. Women do not need men and men do not need women either; no one is entitled to a relationship.

 

Obviously, no one is entitled to a relationship. That's a given. But there are people who have to have someone next to them in order to feel whole. I have met too many of them to deny their existence. The man whose a total mess when he doesn't have a woman. Constantly negative, yet if he has one on his arm, regardless of her qualities, he's on top of the world. We all know women who can't be single. The "bet hedgers", who always make sure they are starting a new relationship before the last is over, sometimes with the last guy not even knowing anything was wrong. The irony of it all, the types who truly don't need a partner to feel complete and on top of the world, more often than not, are those the opposite sex flock to.

I know my post is of a "straight" analysis, but being homosexuals are only 4% of the population and I'm not one, I don't really know if these truths hold true in their world. It could be the complete opposite or maybe the same.

 

Here is yet MORE evidence.

 

Feminists have taken the place of the beta males; they are the only males who feel uncomfortable with strong women. Strong men don't mind strong women.

 

This thread is awesome.

Liberals getting owned... like usual.

 

Femanists and beta males have a lot in common. Herding together for security & support, grandstanding and posing in a tedious attempt to compensate for inadequacies, constantly clamouring for attention and ego boosting. Real women just get on with life.

VIVA LA REAL WOMEN!

 

Bragging on the internet in general is a trait of the attention seeking delusionist. I would address the issue in a less personalised manner so as not to appear like a self-appointed internet pimp with – of course – nothing at your disposal to back it up. It’s not much to listen to in person and certainly not much in the safe, fantasy realms of forums.
Maybe we could have a sensible nuanced debate about how aspects of feminism may have backfired, or how we define feminism. Why do people align feminism with promiscuity? Where is the link between a fight against subjugation and discrimination and wayward sexual activity? Is a slut automatically a feminist? Is a feminist automatically a slut? Has feminism blurred traditional roles, and should those roles be upheld?
Certainly questions worth asking on some level, if for nothing other than to get some clarity and see where people’s opinions lie. Shame it was started in such a self-aggrandizing, patronising and derogatory way.

 

Kurt Cobain was a feminist.

 

Haaaahaha, that's a dead giveaway.
Sour grapes eh...

 

Haaaahaha, that's a dead giveaway.
Sour grapes eh...

 

Oh and it should be:
Viva la real woman or viva les real women dearest beta male.

 

Kurt Cobain would be a libertarian or anarchist... if anything.

Not sure why people care so much about a musicians political views.

 

All you do is quote blogs that you know will agree with you and then declare victory without analyzing evidence or making any real case for what you believe. The "liberals" are not getting owned here at all, its just that the misogynist men who insist that that patriarchy is necessary are flooding the thread without making any real arguments.

Let's take a look at the blog post you presented,

This is obviously just male anger at women who are doing well, and it is filled with logical problems. Firstly, who does this author speak for? I have never once seen or heard a feminist, except for one or two particularly radical ones, rant against men in general. I'm sure there are more, but why does this article conflate them with working women? Oh right, the author is all too eager to brand all successful women as men haters; even though they are clearly not.

Also, seriously? The author is arguing that before (when?) men competed for women's attention? Women, historically, have been the ones whose marriages have mostly been arranged and who are more easily taken advantage of legally by men. You should know that the old phrase "rule of thumb" comes from the law which made it to beat women in certain ways. You think that women of older times could just "compete" for hopelessly attracted men? No. They were oppressed by men in a patriarchal system which favored men over women.