How is a $15 federal minimum wage connected to Covid relief?

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  1. RickJay

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    That was 6-8 years ago, all of it BS, anything current?
    The rights fear and hate of a half way decent wage is a very strange thing. Only thing I can figure is they are all so close to the 15 dallar wage mark that it will make it look like they themselves are 'low wage' so inorder to keep themselves on a higher plain, they have to keep everyone else lower.
    Kinda pathetic really.
     
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    Since when is an unskilled entry level job supposed to pay you more than the job is worth so you can live a middle class life style? Shouldn't a minimum wage only afford you a minimum lifestyle? If you want to live a higher standard of living then make your labor worth to an employer.
     
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    I never said anything about a wage having to be middle class. I was simply pointing out that $15 is NOT lower middle class.
    Christ, learn to read.
     
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    What if the job is only worth $10 an hour?
    EARNING a higher wage because the person made their labor worth more is EXCELLENT. You are advocating it be done by government fiat which is not. Understand the difference?
     
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    Who says it's only 'worth' 10 bucks? You? What makes you so special?
    There needs to be a wait for it......minimum.....set, you do understand that right? Without it that leads to the other thing that makes your righties wet your skirts....unions. History is your friend, why must you insist we repeat it?
     
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    The whole concept of a "minimum wage" is a bad idea! The government has no business whatsoever deciding what anyone should be paid for doing a job -- period. You won't find one (ONE) word authorizing that kind of nonsense anywhere in the Constitution.

    Besides, whether they make it fifteen dollars an hour or fifteen THOUSAND dollars an hour, within a few months INFLATION swoops in and gobbles up the artificially-increased, momentary 'purchasing power' -- and then you're essentially right back where you started!

    Hint: In a free-market economy, such as the United States has had from the first day of our national existence, YOU GET WHAT YOU EARN! If you have a valuable skill that is in demand, you get paid commensurately MORE than other people. If you don't have much education, experience, skill, or aptitude, you get paid commensurately LESS than other people. And in a free country like ours, you are free to become anything you are willing to make the effort to achieve... or, you can just fall by the wayside, make little of life, and bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch. It's great that as Americans, we have the FREEDOM to do that!
     
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    The person who budgets it usually the owner. Never said I was "so special". The only time I ever earned minimum wage was a UNION JOB. What makes you so special as to be able to tell every business owner how much every job is worth to the business. You seem to conflate "personal worthiness" with what the labor they are providing to someone else is financially worth to them.

    Tell me something why doesn't every business pay every employee minimum wage?
     
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    Again, why do you have to put words into other people mouth??
    Please stop doing that.
     
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    What is pathetic:

    1. The left's failure to acknowledge the law of supply and demand;
    2. The left's importation of cheap labor from foreign countries which depresses worker wages (per supply and demand);
    3. The left's demand that taxpayers subsidize imported cheap labor by picking up the tab for free health insurance.

    Next from the left: peacetime wage and price controls.
     
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    Its like a one note song
     
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    In other words. You can't refute the points I made with a well reasoned argument.

    But to some degree you are right. When it comes to the economy it pretty much comes down to a "one note song" called supply and demand.
     
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    On the other hand liberals can assume the role of a parasite and live off of what others make. The problem, which exists for all parasites, is the risk of killing the host.
     
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    I can, learn to write better because you just repeated yourself, lower middle class is still a middle class.
     
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    Where did I put words in your mouth as you desperately avoid and rebuttal of what I posted?

    You said
    I responded you are conflating "personal worthiness" with what a job is worth as evidence by you thinking my statement made me personally worthy.

    So who determines how much a job is worth to the business?
    Why doesn't every business pay every employee minimum wage?
     
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    sure they do, they set the lowest rate greedy people can pay an employee, states can make that relate higher if they want
     
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    The issue should be left up to each state. The federal government was never intended to insert itself into every issue.
     
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    Ah, you are my BROTHER!

    For years in this Forum, I've posed the following question -- and never gotten an answer from even ONE of these budding, welfare-sucking neo-socialists:

    "When parasites suck all the blood out of the host animal, and it finally dies, then what do they suck on next...?"

    [​IMG]. "I didn't know that voting for Democrats would cause THIS!" :lonely:
     
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    it is, just the state can't go lower than the federal min wage

    why do you want to pay Americans less than a federal min wage?
     
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    We haven't had much inflation for years.

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    I assume you understand the Fed runs a little bit of inflation to avoid any chance of deflation that raises real interest rates.
     
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    I’m not surprised you don’t understand basic economics to see what impact that has.
     
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    While I would prefer a negative income tax to increasing the minimum wage in an effort to fix this...

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    ... an increase in the minimum wage won't be that disruptive.

    We're on the cusp of AI, quantum computing, and high-speed wireless putting tens of millions out of work. What are we going to do with these workers?
     
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    I'm an economist and I'd like to hear what you think will happen?
     
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    No you aren’t lol
     
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    They why don't employers pay everyone minimum wage? Why doesn't everyone make minimum wage?
     
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    greedy ones do, and they would pay them less if they could get away with it, not all employers are greedy

    why do you think Trump hired illegal labor?
     
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