I don't like illegal immigration... But I don't resent illegal aliens.

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  1. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

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    Actually we provide education to them to prevent crime. Take a bunch of teenagers and tell them they can't go to high school and have no future and guess what you get? LA would be a war zone for ten years
     
  2. Bow To The Robots

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    We don't need to deport nearly any of them if we simply invite them to leave as I have suggested. Those who decline our polite invitation can then be processed as they are apprehended.

    Lastly, the morality, decency, and liberty you purport to value so dearly is protected by one thing: The rule of law. Your argument conveniently ignores this fact. We do not become immoral, indecent, or anti-libertarian by protecting our borders - like every other nation on this planet.
     
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    I can I just wanted to see if you could follow simple requests to confirm my suspicion.
     
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    Completely ignoring the fact that THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE.
     
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    They are here. I suppose we could ignore that fact if you like but why should we ignore the facts?
     
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    Being reduced to posts like this show you are doing nothing but peddling the propaganda. "It cannot be done" is just an excuse used to make people feel ok with the status quo. It can be done and much more easily than the excuse makers like you say.

    All those here illegally would not need to be physically removed. This is a false point made by your "articles". All that would need done is to start deporting them. Like I said a comprehensive approach would do the job.
     
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    I appreciate you telling me your opinions. Everyone has them. Unfortunately, I find them a bit befuddled. All I've been talking about is rule of law, so I can't see where your argument is coming from. Now if you are asking me if I consider a mass roundup and deportation, immoral? Hell yes. But I value human life and the quality of that life, citizen or no citizen. Some people, don't. What you have proposed is an option that already exists. What's the point?
     
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    Show us where deporting someone equates to killing them.....
     
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    Some people like to think that this is a victimless crime.

    If a person is here illegally and has a job, they are either working under the table ( which is illegal) or they are using a fake social security number ( which is illegal). I know someone who's social security card was used by 10 different people in 1 year. When she went to file her tax return, well you can imagine.
    I agree that deporting 11 millions people will never happen. But if employers would just follow the law I believe many would self deport.
    People make choices and there are consequences for those choices. I can only shake my head when so many balk at personal responsibility.
     
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    I agree. Deporting them will never happen because it is not necessary. Enforcing the laws would take care of the problem. The idea that millions of people would have to be "rounded up" is false.
     
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    The IRS can find a needle in a haystack if they owe considerable money.
    If the government wanted to they could very easily locate employers of illegals and fatally fine them and criminally prosecute management. Illegals won't stay if they have no jobs and no public assistance.
    Nothing has been done about immigration.
    And the truth is, while you hear Americans lamenting about welfare, they have 3 kids in county school that their annual tax bill doesn't come close to paying. You hear Americans lamenting illegal Mexicans but they knowingly buy homes constructed by them, pay for services by them.
    If they bothered us that much, we wouldn't keep them in business.
     
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    Think of the logistical nightmare of getting 12,000,000 Mexicans into the United States. We did it once, we can do it again.
     
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    But let's begin where I suggested with all those DRAFT DODGERS from Israel and Russia now living in the USA.
     
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    Agreed, that is why the only real solution is a comprehensive one. Drumpf is not proposing anything but a pogrom dressed up as a round up.
     
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    The citizens knowingly finance the jobs that keep them here.
    I'd rather pay $20k less for a house than get rid of Mexicans.
    Syrian refugees.... Now those we REALLY don't want. State governments have flat out refused to accommodate them.
    Give us Mexicans any day over the freakshow on the other side of the globe.
     
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    Yeah, White guys can't build houses.
     
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    Paying $20,000 less for a house is a false argument.
     
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    Sure they can. They just charge a lot more.
     
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    So you are against a low minimum wage as long as it can be supplemented with even lower paid illegal immigrant labor? Sad.
     
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    No they don't.
     
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    Uh...yeah they do. Why wouldn't they?
     
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    Hey, we can get even cheaper prices if we bring back slavery....sad that some here would actually argue for that if it would get more democrat voters in the country.
     
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    We have had a permanent under class ever since this country started. Yes its wrong but it is not going anywhere.
     
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    Market pressure? You tell me how many you have hired and I will tell you how many I have hired.
     
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    How do you feel about white guys?
     

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