I Shall Not Appease Motorists!!!

I agree with the OP 100%. I too am a cyclist. Being retired I ride for enjoyment and exercise.

What I find strange is the fact that someone said a cyclist should pull over and let cars by so they are not held up. Why does he say the cyclist should pull over and wait, why are auto drivers more important than cyclist? Isnt time just as important to a cyclist, especially if he is riding to work?

BTW drives should be thankful for every cyclist they see riding to work in the morning. That mean that many more parking spaces are available for cars.

 

The speed limit on most streets is 30 mph+. Good luck finding a route with speed limits under 30 mph.

Following the law is entitlement? That is news to me.

Give me welfare!

I can't say I've ever cycled on a 55 mph road...

 

So, let's get this straight...

1) You have a death wish on cyclists
2) You can't comprehend that the LAW is that bicycles are MOTOR VEHICLES.
3) As I already said, bike lanes next to parked vehicles are not always safe because of the Door Zone. A Cyclist is much more likely to die getting doored than someone running over from behind. Over 95% of bicycle-car fatalities are from riding too close to the right... Right hooks, left hand turns, doors, and T-bones.

 

I almost wiped out a bike idiot a couple of months ago. The speed limit on is 65 because it's a two lane interstate road. I was hauling a gooseneck tralier with two horses, and normally I'll make way around bikers if there's nobody coming in the other direction, but I couldn't since there was a semi coming in the other direction. The idiot on the bike would move over, and as a result almost got side swiped. Then the dumb (*)(*)(*)(*) had the nerve to flip me off. The moron is lucky I didn't pull over and slap his sissy looking helmet of his head.

 

Well, it's not me that needs to!

 

Me neither.

Bikes are legal on streets. Obviously not limited access highways... buts are legal on streets.

 

Many auto drivers think bikes should get out of the way of cars since they are bigger. Well then----------------cars should get the hell out of the way of trucks since they are bigger!!!!

 

I don't understand how riding a bicycle to work is being a jerk. I actually relinquished my parking pass in the garage so someone else could use it (and so I wouldn't have to pay anymore).

 

I don't care if it's legal or not. It shouldn't be unless you can move with the flow of traffic. Otherwise you are nothing more than a road hazard. And eventually you will pay the price.

 

Why am I not suprised you would post a law from one of the most ass-backwards states in the union.

Upon further research of state bike laws, you are correct.. a bicycle is not considered a motor vehicle. It is however, considered a LEGAL VEHICLE for use on public roads. The distinction between bicycle being a vehicle and motor vehicle is mentioned in most states vehicle codes to separate bicycles from vehicles that require license and registration fees for their operation. That is the primary source for the distinction. You must register a motorcycle or Vespa style scooter.

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I am trying to get to work. I have every right to do so.

 

How do you not see it? People who block the flow the flow traffic while putting themselves and others in danger are dicks. That's why people in general don't get all choked up when some dude on a bike gets splattered all over the pavement.

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You certainly have every right to get to work. No one said otherwise. Should you have the right to block traffic and cause everyone else to be delayed in getting to work? Not so much. The fact that being a dick is legal does not make it right.

 

Is that a threat? Pedestrians are road hazards. Construction workers are road hazards. Buses are road hazards. Should they "pay the price" too?

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Speak for yourself with that comment. I don't think anyone will agree with you on that one.

You will deal with it. Try running over a cyclist today and tell me how that works out for you.

 

Better than it will for him.

 

Settle down tough guy, it's not a threat it's just common sense.

 

So Arizona is ass-backwards for having the same law that other states have? What a strange analytical process your mind goes through as if thinking that things designed and manufactured without motors are classified as motor vehicles wasn't evidence enough. DMV's also handle mobile homes, trailer homes, and doublewides if they are not put on block foundations/have axles removed and I don't think anybody would consider one of those a motor vehicle as well. Just to digress further since it is an obscure testament to bureaucracy in action, whether one is classified as mobile homes, trailer homes, and doublewides depends on the color-coded sticker the manufacturer puts on them, not their actual design as far as the DMV is concerned.

 

Not really.

Common sense is not putting myself in harms way to appease folks like stekim.

If he ever did run over a cyclist.. he will probably have his license suspended, all his assets seized, and the permanent guilt of attempting to murder someone to get to work 15 seconds faster.

 

...then get your ass over to the bike lane as soon as possible.

Nothing more aggrivateing than bicyclist riding in the lane when there is perfectly good bike lane unused. And I hate Tour de France wanna be's in a gaggle unsafely taking up the bike lane and part of the vehicle lane, they should ride single file and be courteous enough and socially aware enough to not slow down other because they want to jibber jabber. Thats what I do when I ride my bike. But in your situation you were and are right that driver needed to recognize the situation and be courteous too.

 

You clearly lack common sense if you think that you and your 20lbs of aluminium don't put motorists in danger if they have have tp suddenly brake to avoid you or swerve around you because you're not able to meet the posted speed limits.

 

They should have their drivers license revoked if they can't see a cyclist in the CENTER of the lane 1/4 mile in advance.

 

You shouldn't be in the center of the lane if you can't do the posted speed limit.

 

or bicyclist could use strobe lights and such for their own safety. We have bike lanes in parts of the city. They should never have been built. The city just painted a line down existing roadways calling them bike lanes, thereby narrowing the roadway for vehicles.

 

Those are encouraged already, but do not solve any of the conflict points cyclists come across when trying to appease motorists by constantly hugging the curb.

 

Here is a good explanation with two videos. For once put yourself in someone elses shoes (tough, I know).

Like I said, you will get over it. You won't run over a cyclist.