I Was Hit By The Car Attack In Charlottesville

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm laughing at it.
     
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    I can't argue with your BLOTUS label. It applies to every president i can remember and probably every rep and senator as well. I still see it as somewhat childish.

    I understand we live in a time where we all feel we are entitled to what we want when we want it and if it doesnt fit our individual narrow scope of what we want we take our ball and don't play. Or whine and cry till we make our problem everyone's problem.

    What i see is a regression from we the people to me the individual. Lucky or unlucky depending on your view, we have the media to tell us what to belive and how to behave. This at least maintains some semblance of cohesiveness which for now helps give a sense of validation.

    Trump is who i thought he was. I did not expect him to magically change as president. Seems a lot of folks did. Sure, i had hopes that he might change. I knew then as has been proven now it was a fantasy. By all means continue to focus your fears on Trump. It is easy and we all want comfort to be as easy as possible.

    I know you will reject this point of view because it makes you uncomfortable. You are being led like cattle to the slaughter house. Trump is but a small symptom of the problem you claim to stand against. Trump is an easy target and most of us will always take the path of least resistance when it comes to facing tough and real problems. Racism is a real and tough issue. When you manufacture racism you marginalize true racism. That is the real crime here with all this focus on Trump. Wake up, Grow up. Don't lower yourself to the level the race baiters. You are playing their game and you are playing Trumps game.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Non sequitur response that goes off on a bizarre tangent with zero substantiation.
     
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    Response was predicted. Lack of understanding noted. Continue focus on the symptom while ignoring the problem.
     
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    I'll admit I don't even know what BLOTUS means. But you're right...those who insist on cutsey names get ignored by me. I don't have time or patience for 2-year old minds.
     
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    You failed to provide anything of substance.

    You were called out for a lack of substance.

    You failed again to provide any substance even after being called out for a lack of substance.

    And somehow you still imagine that the problem lies with those who are supposed to be able to "read your mind" as to what on earth you are blathering about?

    :roflol:
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Ironic coming from a BLOTUS supporter.

    Here is a hint, the definition is in my siggie!
     
  8. WillReadmore

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    Nobody has to "accuse" someone of being racist when that person or group takes action to promote the race-specific objectives of white nationalist and related groups.

    These groups are STRIVING to be racist, to turn America further toward being a nation that discriminates against non-whites as an objective - an objective clearly counter to our constitution.

    They are PROUD to be racists.
     
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    Shall i apologize for not telling you what you want to hear? I won't, you already have the media for that.

    I could give you more detail but if you cannot find any substance in what i have said i don't think it would help you any and I am a terrible typist. I do much better in a sit down face to face conversation.

    I will leave you with this. What is your real issue here? Is it racism or is it Trump? If it is Trump then you are guilty of using racism to get Trump. My issue is with racism. The best way to deal with "true" racism is by having conversations with those who are guilty of it. You might be amazed what you can accomplish if you make the effort and take the time to understand the fears that these people have. You wont turn them around in a group. Mob mentality will beat you every time. Sit down face to face, one on one and most times you can find common ground and build from there. Its not easy, it takes time, but it works. Through clarity and understanding you can solve many problems.
     
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    You may have been blind to Trump's pandering to the racist element in America, but white nationalists were not, a number if influential Republican congressmen were not, national business leaders were not, and the majority of Americans were not.

    By the way, being neutral on racism is not an option for the president of this nation. Our nation stands against racism. Anything short of clear and decisive repudiation of the white nationalist direction is not acceptable.
     
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    And black nationalists? La Raza, BLM, and other race-based groups? Cha the Congressional Black Caucus is an official government sub-group.

    What we're witnessing is the pushback to all of that nonsense. Every race but one can represent without being racist? Of course they will fight back. Of course they will. The only surprise is that they haven't sooner.
     
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    Your "face to face" idea is good. But, it applies to all topics, not just bigotry.

    You might be able to talk an individual out of all sorts of trangressions.

    But, that does NOT mean there is no role for the police to play, for congress to plaay, for the president to play.

    There is a right and a wrong. And, we have leadership in part to make it clear which is which.

    In this case, Trump failed to make it crystal clear that the white nationalist direction is anti-American and not acceptable. Some in congress stood up. Some in business stood up. Some of the public stood up (though I do not condone violence orotherwise back all methods of opposition).

    Trump did not stand up for America, and as he is president, that is significant.
     
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    I agree being neutral is not an option. I do not see Trump as being neutral. He could be stronger. From where i sit since he is not saying exactly what some people want to hear when they want to hear. He isn't pandering, he is being used because he does resonate with the right and the working class left and that also happens to be where many of your racists are found. Makes him an easy target.

    The media is doing more to embolden the racists than what trump is saying or not saying. Trump is being used. Used by the racists, used by the media. He is an idiot for not realizing that. The media loves "Dirty Laundry" (look up the song by Don Henley) Trump is fuel for their fire.
     
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    That is one seriously lame excuse.

    There are very real and pervasive cases of racial injustice in America today.

    It is important that Americans (true Americans) work to reduce those problems in order to live up to our foundation of equal treatment for all citizens.
     
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    The case against whites being the most pervasive of all. They do not get to have their race represented like every single other race does. But I bet they will.
     
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    The counter protest is an attempt to shut down free speech. An objective achieved and clearly counter to our constitution.
     
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    Proof? They are there to denounce neo nazis, white supremacist wannabees and the white nationalist "victims" from denying that constitutional right to all of America's citizens.
     
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    Proof? They got it shut down before it started.
     
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    There is no possibility of considering Trump as being even slightly interested in moving toward racial equality in America.

    He chose Bannon. He hose Sessions. He spews raw hate at Mexicans and immigrants. He repeatedly , loudly and publicly attacked a gold star mother and father. He's vocal about his hate for Muslims, including citizens.

    And, this latest confrontation is just one more example. He has made statements all over the board, he has taken no action. He his given no clear message that he hasn't countered at other times.

    He couldn't even convince business execs to stick around. And, that at a time when there could be huge infrastructure deals discussed.
     
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    Not represented????

    What is the racial breakdown in congress?

    How many white governors are there?

    How many white (vs non-white) cabinet members have held office over the last decades?

    What is goung on with you?
     
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    Not represented by race, as every other race is allowed to. Sheesh this is so simple and obvious. It's been building for years and exacerbated during Obama's race-based reign.

    You don't get to make what you call injustice by being unjust and unequal. They are righteously pissed for being excluded. Racially. By name. As every other race is allowed to.

    And you're doing the same thing I am. ;)
     
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    Oh, please. The racists got WAY more coverage due to the presence of counter protestors, and every one in the entire USA would know that.

    The racist extreme should feel great. They got huge coverage for what they stand for. All the little basement Nazis across our nation can now feel like there is a home for them in the Republican party.
     
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    Oh I am sure the left helped them recruit but again your hate clouds your intellect. Defending shutting down free speech is unAmerican.
     
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    The reason there is no "white caucus" is that the Republican majority in Congress IS a white caucus.

    Get those tears out of your eyes and look around!

    If you are having some sort of problem it certainly is not because of having no skin pigment.
     
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    They are not the White caucus, that is the point. Every race is represented by Republicans, only one race is allowed in the CBC because it is a race based org.

    The point being every race can be and is represented by name except one. There is no White anything because it's considered racist when one race does it but no others.

    It's a recipe for disaster. Minority rule always is.
     

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