"These Israelis are NOT the survivors of the European fascist onslaught of the 1930s. They are a new breed of fascists in their own right." They sound like anti-Semitic scum. These folks are aligned with terrorists Hamas who are dedicated to slaughtering Jewish women and children and wiping the tiny nation from the face of the map in a war of conquest? And because of "open democracy human rights and free speech" these idiots should be admitted into the country so they can work to destroy it? Are you out of your fkn mind? In what world does that even makes sense? What is wrong with you that you can't think straight?
Israel, a nation. Citizens, people who hold Israeli citizenship Foreigners, people who are not Israeli I suggest you take a local class on vocabulary
Yes exactly. That is what free speech is about. You can have an opportunity to contest their findings. Its just words.
The Human Rights Watch works for themselves. Any charitable organization that pays out $44.6 million in staff salaries and benefits and a further $38 million in 'expenses' such as travel, meals and meetings should raise suspicion. https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/supporting_resources/financial-statements-2015.pdf
God! They way people approve things which are anti democracy while denying they are anti democratic is as bad as the way people are racist while denying racism. If you don't believe in democracy. Fine. Live with it. Now as Moon says they may be going back on this - wonder who decided that......... According to wiki they are criticised for being biased towards the US Government and for both being biased for and against Israel!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Rights_Watch#Allegations_of_bias This is based on a law going further on work that has been going on in Israel in the last few years against anyone interested in such things as human rights - particularly those who are critical of Israel and left wing in Israel. https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/07/13/israel-law-targets-human-rights-groups So if you are critical of the Government you will lose rights and of course if you are not an Israeli citizen you will not get in. However if you are someone who finances illegal settlements, then that is fine, just a nod and a wink. Israel is an ethnic nationalist Jewish state not a democracy with decreasing rights for everyone. https://www.richardsilverstein.com/...-official-security-threat-ben-gurion-airport/ Fascinating the way in which people who scream no PC are fine with No Human Rights.
I think the Saudi government is responsible for its own human rights violations I also think your argument has no merits. The fact is, HR NGOs like Amnesty do comment on what they perceive or determine to be human rights violations committed by state actors in other countries. For example: Bottom line, in the case of the Saudi government's violation of Article 20 of the ICCPR, one human rights organization - Freedom House - condemned the Saudi government for disseminating its hate propaganda while two human rights organizations - HRW and AI - conspicuously remained silent. This is but one example of how HRW and AI have undermined their own credibility, and naturally there are going to be consequences for HR NGOs that don't operate in a fair, even-handed and consistent manner.
I suspect even Iran, Cuba, China, and other despotic nations allow in HRW personnel. but not Israel, they must have a lot to hide
The difference is whether the Syrian state has adequate control over the human rights within the country to prevent that action by the Russians. Clearly in this instance they did not. Do you not think that the USA has adequate control of human rights within its borders? Similarly HRW and AI have both made condemnations about Saudi activity in Yemen.
The HRW has no interest in China, Cuba, Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, or the Palestinians for that matter .... They're dedicated to demonization of Israel, that's what their Saudi sponsors are paying for.
I suspect you're wrong about many of those countries, particularly the first one you mentioned. Iran has not only denied access to HR NGOs but the UN's Special Rapporteur for Human Rights in Iran. In principle, I disagree with the Israeli government's position, but I also recognize that some "human rights organizations" and "human rights" activists aren't what they claim to be. I don't know the background of the HRW official in question, but it deserves researching.
What the 'ell are you talking about? They report on all these countries and many others besides. You just post things you invent in your head.
Same, Freedom House being one as Moon demonstrated earlier. But besides, I take any NGO report with a grain of salt. However, they should be left alone to compile their reports and challenged openly on their findings.
Clearly, the Assad regime has control over the presence of Russian military forces in Syria, but Amnesty chose to comment on Russia's actions anyway. I'm also unaware of any internal policy that restricts Amnesty from commenting on the human rights violations committed by state actors in foreign countries. I presume you can produce the documents substantiating the existence of such a policy, otherwise your argument has no merit.
That is not my argument. My argument is that the USA is fully in control over events within in its own borders, and so HRW and AI are not concerned with pamphlet spreading by anyone in the USA. In fact, they would more likely become concerned about any attempt to stop pamphlet spreading.
I agree with you on the need to verify the findings in any NGO report. I also wonder how many of us researched the background of the HRW official seeking entry into Israel before they commented on this matter.
It's a rare day indeed when I wish to follow Israel's example... But I wish to ban them from my country too.
Sure they have a few reports on other countries too, to feign objectivity.... The fact of the matter is, they're obsessed with Israel and has always been. The Islamic world subjugates their entire female population and religious minorities, hundreds of thousands are killed in Syria and Iraq, the gulf states are horrific 7th century theocracies, Russia, China, North Korea violate human rights on a daily basis... and the HRW issues report after report bashing the only democratic and stable state in the ME. Sorry, but their rare, toothless, useless, token reports on other countries don't fool anyone with a brain.
Right.... organizations, funded by Soros and the Saudis and acting as propaganda tools in the hands of dictatorships, theocracies and terrorists should be left alone because they declare themselves to be human rights advocates and we should pretend that they are. Get real.
As an American citizen, I'm well aware of the fact that our government does not exercise full control over everything that happens in our country. I'm also aware that this would not prevent Amnesty from commenting on the Saudi hate propaganda that was distributed in the U.S. without our government's knowledge and consent because it doesn't have any policies that restrict it from commenting on any human rights violation in any country. As for "pamphlet spreading" that's not an issue here. It's the content in the pamphlets that is the issue.
Lol clearly he is well qualified for fact gathering assignment, nothing in his background indicates any sort of bias
