It's not your 'medicine' you just want to get high so be honest.

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  1. MrNick

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    I know it does, but at the same time people are using this "it treats everything" as an excuse to get high... Why don't people who want to get high just say it - not make up random nonsense just to get a medial marijuana card..

    Pot should be legal for anyone of age and it shouldn't matter WHY people smoke pot - their reasons are none of the governments business.
     
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    People under 21 should need a "medical" reason.

    But, over 21 it should be legal.

    Just like you have to be 21 to drink booze.

    It is ludicrous to say "any age".

    But yeah, legalize it/tax it and let it be anything goes for people over 21.
     
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    It IS a medicine though. It has been shown to have benefits for certain ailments. It is already used in medicines. So yes, some people do in fact use it for medicine, as it is less addictive and has less negative side effects compared to some other prescription medicines.
     
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    I said anyone OF age.....

    IMO, it should be 18. Look, if you can vote and go to war and die for this country or even work in high risk jobs then you should be able to drink beer and smoke pot.

    Hell, in Europe you only have to be 16 to drink, the drinking age in Canada I believe is 19.
     
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    I never claimed weed wasn't, my point is that if people want to get high then just say it, don't make up some reason to get a medical weed card.... Doing all that is doing an injustice to liberty. It's none of the governments business if people want to get stoned.
     
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    That's because that's the only way they can smoke it legally. It's still not legal for recreational use. I wonder if it is better off being illegal. After all, once the government gets it's grubby hands in on it, it is probably going to get expensive. Lol.
     
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    That's the issue I have... Anyone can get a medial weed card if you go to the right doctor but one shouldn't have to..... Weed should be legal.

    And no the government shouldn't be allowed to tax it either because it's a plant. Does the government tax people when the grow tomatoes? no, do they tax people when they bring their fruits of their home garden to the farmers market? no, so why tax weed?

    Unfortunately there is really going to be no way around taxes on weed because those that want weed legalized (actually decriminalized) will sacrifice high taxes for a resolution.
     
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    Why 21? What does that arbitrary date do?

    Why should we trust 18 year olds with going to war and killing people but not with a beer or a joint?
     
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    They have to say it is medicine because that or growing it is the only way our all intrusive government will let them smoke. Ain't it funny how the Republican champions of small government and personal freedom are so devoted to the incredibly stupid program of keeping Pot illegal. The only explanation other than total hypocracy would be that they have been bought by the alcohol lobby.

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    Check out prices in Colorado.
     
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    Yea, well those "war on drugs" republicans were the same ones trying to prevent Trump from getting the nomination....

    Truth is most republicans want weed decriminalized - I don't personally know any republican that has an issue with weed. That tends to be a neocon issue.

    Indeed our government is intrusive.... It's none of the governments business what people do as long as people aren't hurting others..

    Reminds me of a joke:

    So a guy is sitting on his porch smoking a cigarette and a neighbor walks up and says "boy you remind me of your grandpa sitting here on the porch smoking cigarettes, boy how did he manage to live so long" and the guy replies: "by minding his own business".
     
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    I find it interesting that you expect sober adults to see the world the same way as children and pot-heads. If the immature and intoxicated find your ideas compelling, perhaps you should stick to that audience.

    The constitution was crafted 200 years ago. It's a good tool and I'm grateful to those who provided it. But they're dead. And some of them were jerks. What you imagine they may have intended for people to do 200 years later is of no interest to me.

    I am equally unconcerned with how Christopher Columbus, Cleopatra or Democritus wanted me to live my life. Perhaps your pot-head friends have different priorities.



     
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    LOL!, but you cannot comment intelligently on these two inquiries that are understood and accepted by those you mention.

    Do you agree and accept that the framers of the founding documents intended for us to alter or abolish government destructive to our unalienable rights?

    Do you agree and accept that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to enable the unity adequate to effectively alter or abolish?


    Where the first is outright stated in the Declaration of Independence and the second is required for the first to manifest.

    I must say, you appear very sick. Maybe some medicine would help.
     
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    I can and have. If you would like a different answer, ask a different question.

    I appreciate your concern for my health. You diagnosis has less justification than the advice in a fortune cookie, I value it about the same.




     
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    Your ignorance knows no bounds. Tell the children that have had non psychoactive cannabis oil to treat their cancer that it's not a medicine.
     
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    Hah, that is the NWO view on the great Americans. They use "all or nothing thinking" to justify the position. Because of missing history Lincoln can be viewed as a dictator, and Jefferson is an ass because he had slaves and smoked weed with George Washington.

    But there is nothing intelligent about your post. Asking for a different question rather than answering the ones provided makes you selective, not intelligent. Of course if those 319 m states citizens could be presented with the opportunity to answer the questions I've asked you, they would agree and accept them. What does that make you?

    Stating that free speech is important because it allows us to gather many points of view is obvious. True intelligence seeks to preserve itself and UNITY is what does that best in human society.

    Now, with a republic that has ACCURATE unalienable rights, that unity can not only empower survival, it can empower evolution, but it appears you are not interested.
     
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    The title of this thread is absolutely true. Weak minded fools just want illegal drugs made legal so they can get high.
     
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    Sorry, but there is absolutly no evidence of the Republicans supporting legalization. Dream on.
     
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    Sorry dude but some of us who are more sucessful than you will ever be in your wildest dreams actually enjoy getting high.
     
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    No chemical equivalency unless you can explain what is moral about using tobacco and alcohol.

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    Go read back issues of National Review and the many pieces by William F Buckley one of the first political commentators who called for at the least decriminalization in his magazine, the LEADING conservative journal.
     
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    How come you left off potato chips and Coca Cola.
     
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    Anyone who suffers from peripheral neuropothy or other conditions of the nerve system knows how effective marijuana can be in lowering the excruciating pain it can cause and what can be the overwhelming anxiety that comes with chronic pain.

    Anyone who suffers from glaucoma or borderline high pressure in the eyes knows how it lowers the pressure in the eye and can keep one below that 20 point and off having to use eye drops and other pharmaceuticals which can have serious side effects besides they expense of them.
     
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    ". Go read back issues of National Review and the many pieces by William F Buckley one of the first political commentators who called for at the least decriminalization in his magazine, the LEADING conservative journal."

    Are you confused between decriminalization and legalization. And we are talking about the Republican Party not one of it's few intelligent apologists.
     
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    It doesn't actually treat the cancer. It helps with the side effects of the treatments for cancer. Which is a major good thing.
     
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    Supports American businesses? (coca-cola too)



     
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    Are you confused that one leads to the other, it is the first step. And apparently confused as to his role and influence which of course was felt heavy by the conservative party, the Republicans.
     

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