Jesus was 'Palestinian messenger,' role model

So what? If any countries deserve financial restitution for all the death and destruction America blessed them with, it's those two. Israel needs nothing from the West-as its apologists are constantly at pains to tell us. Spend that money on something which actually does some good.

 

Really - and how much of it goes back - boomerangs - to US Corporations and US Contracting companies ?

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recent genetic research proves this to be bunk. Ashkenazi Jews have little in common genetically with modern-day peoples of the Caucausas.

 

For Ronstar :

Contractors reap $138bn from Iraq war

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7f435f04-8c05-11e2-b001-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2p4KAFbbp

The business of war is profitable. In 2011, the 100 largest contractors sold $410 billion in arms and military services. Just 10 of those companies sold over $208 billion. Based on a list of the top 100 arms-producing and military services companies in 2011 compiled by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), 24/7 Wall St. reviewed the 10 companies with the most military sales worldwide.

These companies have benefited tremendously from the growth in military spending in the U.S., which by far has the largest military budget in the world. In 2000, the U.S. defense budget was approximately $312 billion. By 2011, the figure had grown to $712 billion. Arm sales grew alongside general defense spending growth. SIPRI noted that between 2002 and 2011, arms sales among the top 100 companies grew by 51%.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money...10-companies-profiting-most-from-war/1970997/

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If ever there was a festering, bloated, pustulating obscenity it's America's 'defence' spending.

 

I would agree that his claim of a "large" genetic influence is BS. But, of course there was some interbreeding with the local populations, and it shouldn't be any surprise that those jews who originate from jews who immigrated through Spain have genetic differences to those jews who originate from jews who immigrated around the Eastern end of the Mediterranean Sea through the Caucausas region. And both having genetic differences to jews who originate from jews who immigrated south into Arab areas.

 

You really should learn the difference between hypotheses and a "conspiracy theory "


Wishing you an enlightening - Happy New Year - LOL

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most recent genetic research suggests that Judean men moved into the Roman Empire, took non-Jewish European wives, and converted them.

75% of Ashkenazi and Sephardic mitochondrial DNA orginates from four women in Northern Italy, around 10,000 years ago. The male DNA is mostly Levantine.

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a hypothesis involves evidence.

YOU have no evidence, just a clear obsessive hatred of all things Jewish.

 

Not so -

Report said ;" By far the largest number of Ashkenazim originate from eastern Europe -specially Lithuania, Poland, and Russia- and almost certainly have a large Khazar or Khazar-influenced (i.e. ethnically Turkic, Slav, and Magyar) genetic component.

Geneticist are NOT in agreement - Another study says :

"A study at the University of Huddersfield led by Professor Martin B. Richards, the results of which were released in October 2013, analyzed about 2,500 complete and 28,000 partial Mt-DNA genomes of mostly non-Jews, and 836 partial Mt-DNA genomes of Ashkenazi Jews. The study concluded that 65%-81% of Ashkenazi Mt-DNA is European in origin, claiming that all four founding mothers were European, and that most of the remaining lineages are also European.

The study claims that only 8% of Ashkenazi Mt-DNA is Middle Eastern in origin, and the origin of the rest is unclear. They wrote:


If we allow for the possibility that K1a9 and N1b2 might have a Near Eastern source, then we can estimate the overall fraction of European maternal ancestry at ~65%. Given the strength of the case for even these founders having a European source, however, our best estimate is to assign ~81% of Ashkenazi lineages to a European source, ~8% to the Near East and ~1% further to the east in Asia, with ~10% remaining ambiguous... Thus at least two-thirds and most likely more than four-fifths of Ashkenazi maternal lineages have a European ancestry.
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Schlomo Sand, professor of history at Tel Aviv university, wrote about the Zionist myth


Most of the Jews in Israel are not the original Jews of the Bible, but people who converted to the Jewish religion.

Most of the Jews in Israel are descended from people in countries such as Germany, Georgia, Ukraine, Yemen, and Morocco who were not originally Jewish.

The Palestinians are most likely the original Jews.

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It is whatever you guys believe it to be , but don't expect everyone else to join you.

Tata............

 

Soooo, once more getting back to the OP -

Looking over the gospels, we see that Jesus also took a trip to Jerusalem every Passover as per Luke 2:41. He also wore tassles on His clothing as per Luke 8:43, and Matt. 14:36 as a reminder of the commandments. He also observed Succoth and Hannukah, and often quoted from Hebrew Scripture.

So, how are today's Palestinians doing as far as following their role model? If a Palestinian did what Jesus did, he'd be locked up at best and shot at worst.

 

Most recent and thorough genetic research shows that while maybe 75% of Ashkenazi and Sephardic female DNA comes from Europe, the majority of their male DNA comes from the Middle East.

http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2013/131008/ncomms3543/full/ncomms3543.html

 

The confusion is about calling "Jew" even to members of other tribes of Israel, and for this reason the best updates still will show "controversies".

The Cohen familiy that by ancestry belongs to the Levite tribe of Israel, shows a genetic mark that is different to the rest of Levites (descendants of Levi)

This genetic mark, to my understanding, and it is solely my opinion, is a genetic mutation in the Cohen descendants because their ancestors were members of the High Priesthood in Israel. These priests performed the DAILY sacrifice in the outside of the Tabernacle (when in Exodus) and in the two Temples. We have several generations of these families exposed daily to smoke from the sacrifices. At large, a mutation happened.

The Levites, whom are also found as part of the population in Khazar, are not JEWS, they are Levites.

If we look for genetic distinction, then we must also start to clear up who is whom with specifics. We can call a Jew as being "Levitical Jew" because this implies him to follow the Levitical Laws, but never to imply that this Jew is a descendant of the tribe of Levi.

Khazar converts were of two levels, the Cohen Levite converts, and the Levite converts. For to make this more entertaining, in Khazar, what is found is a controversy when some people claimed to be descendants not only of Levi but of Simeon. We are witness of how the information of their ancestry was passed generation through generation since their exile caused by the Assyrians over the kingdom of Israel.

This is history in progress, and genetic studies reveal the presence of these tribes in Khazar as a geographic area Even when many claim that genetics can identify the chronology of the events, such is peanuts. Genetics can only affirm and confirm the presence of families in a certain area by genetic identification, that's all genetics can do.

A reconstruction of history in base of genetics must be supported by a second witness which is the historical relates written by someone in those eras, and if agreement is found, then the study will be accurate by the solid evidence.

Still., I wonder, and what Jesus has to do with Khazar in reference to be a Palestinian messenger?

 

Nothing. It's a deflection. Furthermore, it's a deflection away from the OP because the usual suspects KNOW the ridiculous claim about Jesus being some kind of "role model" for Palestinians is as bogus a claim as Paris Hilton calling herself a virgin. So they hijack the thread into the usual Jew-bashing platitudes that we've heard a million times before, and that they are most comfortable with, because their handlers won't allow them to admit that the OP's claim is inane, and furthermore makes their idealogical allies look bad.

How this thread hasn't been locked or had two-thirds of the posts deleted for thread derailment is a miracle.

 

Berbers is a eurocentric word used to describe the nations and ppl of north afrika, ppl like Numidians. Berber means barbarian and its likely the learned 'berbers' wouldnt appreciate that. Kahina was an Israelite and iwas unaware that she converted, where did you read that? The Israelites fled into Afrika in times of need (invasions from the east) even though Yah forbid them to do so;

Jer 43:7 So they came into the land of Egypt: for they obeyed not the voice of the Lord: thus came they even to Tahpanhes.

Jer 44:12 And I will take the remnant of Judah, that have set their faces to go into the land of Egypt to sojourn there, and they shall all be consumed, and fall in the land of Egypt

The Israelites of North Afrika are likely to be the remnants of this dispersal after the Roman and Assryian conquests. For those who were not taken captive - If the threat came from the east its likely the diaspora would head in the opposite direction into Afrika, against Yah's will.

 

"Yah" is the name the racist idiotic black Hebrew Israelites use for God.

I thought you said you were a white man.

 

Unfortunately we dont have any Khazar dna [because they 'mysteriously dissapeared' ] to compare with so we cant know for sure is jewish ppl are Khazars or not.

 

What was it again? 10% of the world population (americans) spend 50% on the worlds 'defence budget' or some staggering statistic like that. The quote goes on to state that America has clearly lost its 'negotiating influence'

 

So thats a majority of jewish ppl are indeed europeans in your own words [given that you couldnt be bothered to give us a % of male jewish ppls dna lol]

 

you have the DNA of their neighbors: the Georgians, Armenians, Dagestanis, Azerbaijanis, Chechnyans. And the Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews bear little genetic resemblance to them.

 

Thats how topics evolve. When an op is so wrong then it often goes off into a tangent as such, thats how forums work. If you dont like the stuff youre reading here put a plug in your ears and scream loudly, or just dont open the topic if the thread doesnt interest you.

 

the topic hasn't "evolved".

trolls have simply taken advantage of the thread to make their typical and never-ending attacks upon Jews.

 

k, i'll use YHWH especially for you if you let me know when youll be posting, thnx and lighten up a bit, YHWH doesnt like racists, especially ones from europe

 

then he must hate you.

 

Yet we dont have the dna of the Khazars so iguess we'll never know whether jewish ppl are Khazars or not. Thats an amicable way to end things, unless of course you have to be right and everyone else has to be wrong but then again thats an ego thing, not very academic is it.

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ilike you, honestly, youre sweet underneath that arm chair commando exterior. Happy new year bro.