Just contacted the ATF about "Moonshiners" episode

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  1. Robert

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    i suggest they do make liquor but you handed them the best move to make if arrested due to a film.

    Tim the moonshiner that starred a lot sells the product down the road from me.

    He now is legal.

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    This isn't your ordinary American bourbon style whiskey its Tim Smith's century-old moonshine recipe aged and filtered with toasted oak and maple wood imparting color and revolutionary flavors. Distillery Notes
     
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    And you know what happened to your report? It went right in to the trash due to the fact that TV shows like that are bull.
     
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    He very well may have done it illegally at one point. But what they do on the show is not real. It does not show any actual moonshine.

    By the way. Tims bourbon is abysmal. The worst I've ever had.

    I've had tailings that tasted better.
     
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    Dude the reason that they can't be actual moonshiners is because the law knows their identities and moonshining is highly illegal, and as such the law is ethically bound to arrest them. They are demonstrating how this is and or was done for entertainment purposes.

    Ignorance knows no limits with some people
     
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    What is difficult when a full camera crew is detailing everything they do from their home to the still revealing their addresses and identities.

    People with your level of intelligence make it embarrassing to be an American
     
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    Nothing done on that TV show is or could be legal, as trespassing is a crime to itself..............You believed what you saw, but at least you are waking up, try staying sober
     
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    As I said before. Read my very first post in this thread. I've never thought this was actually real.

    Here. I'll quote it for you.

     
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    Yup we know where you get your news from



    It was a t.v.show
     
  9. TheDonald

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    Well if none of it is real, then discussing how it relates to real processes makes as much sense as discussing how the professor kept the batteries in that little white radio going for years on Gilligans Island
     
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    We should just legalize distillation for hobby shiners.
     
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    They kill people in a variety of ways, often by selling pure methanol/ethanol which is toxic
     
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    People who believe "reality tv" is real shouldn't be allowed to access the Internet. ;)

    Let's consider the illegalities being encouraged here: not only making "illegal liquor" and setting off explosives, but destroying private property. Similar dipshits have posted themselves committing crimes on Facebook. They were promptly arrested. The fact no one on Moonshiners has been arrested for any of the "crimes" depicted on the show are proof no actual crimes were committed.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonshiners_(TV_series)
    There have been claims by local officials that the show is not what it portrays to be. Virginia authorities have stated that no illegal liquor is actually being produced by the people depicted in the show. The Virginia Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC) said in March 2012 that, "If illegal activity was actually taking place, the Virginia ABC Bureau of Law Enforcement would have taken action."[2] They also said that they had requested for the producers to add a disclaimer to clarify that the show was only a dramatization, "but the request was overlooked",[2] and the show's producers, Magilla Entertainment, have stated their documentary content is real.[3]
     
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    Which is why it should be legalized and regulated.
     
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    It isn’t bourbon if he uses his moonshine recipe. His Moonshine uses a lot of sugar. Bourbon uses zero sugar.
     
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    What is pure methanol/ethanol? Ethanol is what you drink, and if made from grains, you get very little methanol which gets cast off in the foreshot anyway. You can buy a gallon of cheap wine, dump it in a still and collect a small jar of drinkable distillate, and yes it will have some methanol in it, but no more than was in the gallon of wine to begin with.
     
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    Hardly. There are a lot of false things said on the show. Providing the reality of these things educates people. Having been in this hobby as long as I have, I've seen and heard of people doing things that hinder our attempts to remove senseless regulation.
     
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    There isn't much methanol in the foreshots. It's mostly acetone. Methanol actually bonds to ethanol and will come out in different portions throughout your run. How much methanol is produced depends on the mash or must and a few other things. But if there are no pectins in your mash then no methanol is produced. Fruit based mashes have more pectins grain based mashes are next on the list. In mash bills for things like rum no methanol is produced as there are no pectins in sugar and molasses.

    Anyway as I said before methanol isn't something ya have to worry about in any of the typical grain bills as not enough methanol is in there once you mix your fractions. If by some miracle you do get methanol poisoning guess what the cure for it is. Ethanol.
     
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    What you are saying here is largely correct. About 17 years ago I joined an internet group of Absinthe historians. Many of them were distilling clandestine Absinthe at their homes. I became a accomplished distiller myself making legal Absinthe in licensed distilleries both in France and the US. I learned a lot about distilling from those guys. A good number of them now operate their own legal distilleries.

    The heads can be redistilled. lots of flavorful stuff can be recovered from them.

    Yes you are correct. I used to save the heads and add them to the next run, but I always tossed the foreshots when making my base alcohol. I was using raisins. The tails were always saved and redistilled as well.

    I agree.

    High methanol in moonshine is largely a myth.
     
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    Cable is not nationally televised.
     
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    Read your post wrong the first time. My bad.

    It is amazing how many professionals still believe the falisities of distilling though.

    I tend to save my heads and tails for feints runs when making neutrals or will add them to mash for use in a doubler.

    I keep the foreshots for cleaning bike parts. Acetone works wonders removing old gaskets.
     
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    To get a quantity of methanol that would actually hurt you, you would have to do an all heads run several times. And even then since ethanol bonds to methanol it would only hurt you if you drank heads that has been distilled several times and then stopped drinking.
     
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    Fair enough. But yes. Some bourbons do use sugar. To be classified as a bourbon it need only come from a grain bill that is atleast 51% corn and be aged in new oak barrels. Straight bourbon has other requirements.

    His whiskey rather is abysmal.
     
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    His whiskey rather is abysmal.[/QUOTE]
    as is his shine I’m sure.
     
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    as is his shine I’m sure.[/QUOTE]
    Potato potato

    Tasted like rubbing alcohol with artificial flavoring.
     
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    C4243DCF-9656-4F28-9E2E-F6825206C5EF.jpeg Stop ratting Ronstar.
     

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