Lucy pulls the ball away.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lee Atwater, May 16, 2018.

  1. ocean515

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    Indeed.

    "I told Rex Tillerson, our wonderful Secretary of State, that he is wasting his time trying to negotiate with Little Rocket Man," the president said.
     
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    But do we feel the same about Iran?
     
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    My word. Is this what you actually believe? "Landslide election"? Who told you that? Clinton had 3-5 million more popular votes but played her hand poorly so lost the electoral vote. Let's be clear, there was no mandate. "Party of the depressed"? Really? The Dems have moved on, learned from their mistakes, adjusted their strategy, and gone on to win every special election since. Dems aren't looking back and ignoring this will be fatal for the Trump crowd.
     
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    Just curious, who again is the Commander-in-Chief and could have ordered the military to hold off on any military exercises in Korea until after the talks?
     
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    I agree....but it shouldn't matter what the issue is. We are all Americans and should all be rooting for success.
     
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    Sunnaofabeehive! Trumpy had already dusted off a shelf for his very own Nobel prize, which he wants desperately since Obama has one - this turn of events will hurt and he'll be lashing out at someone on his staff, LOL. For heaven's sake, the rabid right wing fans of the buffoon had already declared "peace in our time"......

    I've said before if Trump can pull this off, I will definitely applaud the effort. The problem is Trump has no idea of just how fraught with risk his decision to meet young Kim was - he probably thinks this is no different than solving a business dispute. There is one rather large & obvious reason (among others) why previous presidents did not meet with NK dictators.......undoubtedly someone has already explained this to Trump - did he listen?
     
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    Keep digging
     
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    Seems Kim responded to the insult, didn't he?

    An good example of why adults engage in this type of diplomacy and leave the squeaking about it to the children.
     
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    I guess it falls along the lines of...payback's a bitch. Now, I'm not saying it's right, but again if we're honest...the next Dem that gets into WH is not going to get support from the Right. Tit for tat.
     
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    That's certainly what right wing media has convinced the gullible to accept.
     
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    Dems won't be able to elect a local dog catcher in the future.

    They've lost over 1000+ seats across the board at local, state and federal levels SINCE 2010. Did they change? No, they moved further left.

    Steve
     
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    I'd love to be 20 years old again...but it ain't gonna happen
     
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    That's a tough one cause I don't think they believe in M.A.D. But I do believe Israel should have complete autonomy to take what ever measures they need to prevent what many of their neighbors have screamed for decades of "death to the Jews".
     
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    I wouldn't count on that. History shows a Dem will in fact get elected to the WH again in the future.
     
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    Which exercises? The quarterly ones the military runs like clockwork? Are you saying our military shouldn't be prepared for combat for now? Like having a stand down during a Tet holiday in Vietnam?
     
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    You "don't think Iran believes in MAD."
    That and a dollar will buy you a cup of coffee at McDonalds.
     
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    LOL

    Keep confirming.
     
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    Kim has already won a big concession from the U.S. He got to talk directly with the president of the United States. He is now a world player. He has, and will keep his nukes. Another win. Worse, Kim was the first threatening to walk away from the deal, not Trump. This makes Trump look weak.

    Then again, it ain't over till it's over. However, having guys like Let's Play it Like Libya John Bolton on your team makes it unlikely things will improve. Dennis Rodman would have been a better pick.
     
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    That was my point above. They haven't changed and likely won't change in the future, since they are depending on the lying liberal media to pull their asses out of the hole they dug for themselves.

    Steve
     
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    Not running an exercise that we know the North Koreans see as provacative (which is exactly how they have responded to them in the past) until after these talks are done is not a “stand down”.
     
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    Well at least there was one Liberal on this site thinking logically, well done ;)
     
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    Really? How has it done that?

    Does the alt-left think it can convince people outside it's bubble that the President had nothing to do with Kim and Moon shaking hands?

    Let's consider what Moon has said about it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/10/moon-jae-in-credits-donald-trump-for-inter-korea-talks

    “I think President Trump deserves big credit for bringing about the inter-Korean talks, and I want to show my gratitude,” he told reporters in Seoul. “It could be the result of US-led sanctions and pressure.”
    Let's see what other World Leaders think.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/angela-merkel-praises-trump-for-strength-on-north-korea

    "Today, we meet at a point in time where it has become very clear that the strength of the American president, where he really saw to it that the sanctions against North Korea are respected, has opened new possibilities, opened new ways,” Merkel said during a joint press conference with Trump.​
     
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    So if Iran doesn’t believe in MAD, why have they not launched a mass ballistic missile attack on israeli cities with nerve gas?

    They have the capability to do so and such an attack would kill enough Israeli civilians that the state of Israel would become untenable. So why haven’t they?
     

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