Man injured after officer involved shooting in Kenosha

NBA players are threatening to boycott unless the officers involved in Blake's shooting are charged:

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news...-jacob-blake-live-updates-kenosha/5632468002/

Personally, I hope they do. The NBA is circling the drain anyways.

 

I base my opinion on what is now known at this point in time.

 

And thus...
You don't know enough about this shooting to know if it was legally justified.

 

You took my comentbout of context. Put it back together then post your opinion.

 

I went back and Insee that you took my sentence out of context.

 

I'm not saying everything I posted was fact. I asked people to "consider" these possibilities.

I AM saying that Joe and Kamala are wrong to release a statement considering only race as a factor. All of my considerations are more plausible than race at this point; there is zero evidence of racism atm.

A week after: "We will unite", "Trump divides", they jump to conclusions immediately. Uh, you just divided right there; a call to not assume racial motives or at least for calm might have saved a lot of property.

 

Less police? That will only make things more difficult. If anything, more police are needed if you want to get to a place where those who resist arrest are not in danger of getting killed. About the only way that can happen is if there are more than enough police to get anyone, regardless of size and strength, under control. I see less police equating to even more perps killed while resisting arrest as a solo cop or two cops, may not have any other choice.

 

Probably why he was trying to flee the scene with 3 kids in the back of his car.

Of course all I'm hearing listening to the radio today on a sales trip was that he was "unarmed" and "just shot in the back" which is belied by the fact it's in the audio and witness statements the police were yelling at him to DROP THE KNIFE, that they had according to the witnesses TASED him and it had no effect and he blew right by them and that he then opened the car door and the reach down to where a gun would be stashed. Of COURSE they fired their weapons at him.

And then the kids in the back seat thing, the windows on the SUV are all blacked out, the reporting is as if the police made SURE they shot him IN FRONT OF THE CHILDREN!!!! We don't even know if the police knew there were kids in the car with the blacked out windows. And it was the criminal who refused their commands walked around the SUV and OPENED THE DOOR, he endangered the children and should be charged as such to go along with the arrest warrant that was out on him.

 

This is a state investigation now and they are known for being quite tight lipped. All the MSM and the race baiting attorney Crupp should keep their mouths shut along with the governor who has already thrown these officers under the bus. And Biden better watch out after his and Obama's "beer summit" where they ambushed that professional police officer and threw him under the bus. He's already lost the traditional police support the Dems have had, other blue color workers will follow.

 

It is his split second judgement on what he can do to try and stop the guy and you note he didn't tackle the guy or try to grab him bodily, it was a last ditch split second highly charged effort I don't think you or I can second guess that.

 

What does the speed of his gait have to do with anything. DROP THE KNIFE...........that "noncompliance" and then open a car door and reach to where a gun would be likely stashed..................BOOM. Please didn't work, neither did the witness reported TASER. You would think he'd gotten the message by then? He had warrants and priors, he knew what was going to happen if they took him in.

And BTW he's not dead. In fact he'll be in custody soon.

 

Amazing isn't it, on the one hand it's all the police fault and these police need to be better trained and we need to hire better police and on the other hand we need to defund the police.

 

Sure butbconclusions are jumped to by both sides.

 

What is it you think we know at this point in time?

 

The primary idea with defunding police is that you no longer send out the armed thugs on every call. That way less innocent people are shot by police who are afraid that a guy could have a flamethrower stashed in his minivan.

 

And then you’ve got his rap sheet. Violence. Sexual assault. And a warrant. Maybe the cops were already aware this guy was a POS. And how many chances did this guy get? As soon as you fight against the cops, you’ve given up whatever benefit of the doubt you had. Another scumbag gets himself shot by being a scumbag.

 

If he was running away that sure as schiest would reinforce the noncompliance argument. Is there a video that has an audio component that indicates the officers said "drop the knive"? Now we are going on "where a gun would be likely stashed". Was there a gun stashed in the car? Is there any proof that he was reaching for a gun? If so show it.

Dies the fact that someone has outstanding warrants and or priors warrant execution by police?

As a matter of fact nothing that you presented warrants an execution by police.

 

If he was running away that sure as schiest would reinforce the noncompliance argument. Is there a video that has an audio component that indicates the officers said "drop the knive"? Now we are going on "where a gun would be likely stashed". Was there a gun stashed in the car? Is there any proof that he was reaching for a gun? If so show it.

Dies the fact that someone has outstanding warrants and or priors warrant execution by police?

As a matter of fact nothing that you presented warrants an execution by police.

just what the video showed. That is why I qualified my statement to ' what we knew at the time'.

 

One side is looking at the facts the evidence and witness statements, the other side is ignoring that and has jumped to a conclusion and want to lynch the police officers.

 

As you have been told the OP YouTube video :05 and the cited the witness statements that they repeatedly yelled at him to drop the knife.

Yeah people stash their guns on down on the side of the seat where he made motion when he stooped and reached.

Spare me the inane.

Stop fallaciously referring to it as an execution for emotional effect. Deal with the facts.

 

There are those people from both sides who have set their opinions of what happenedp. Maybe I missed it but who here said to lynch the police? I saw no such statement.

 

Not even worth reading let alone a response.

 

The audio or the videos and witness statements as already cited.
But I understand because while driving long distance today I listened to CNN and MSNBC and they kept repeating that he was "unarmed" even though that do not know if that is true, the police haven't said he was unarmed. And the fact the witnesses state the police were yelling at him to drop a knife. They totally leave that out of their reporting. And that he didn't just try to enter the vehicle he was actually reaching down as if going for another weapon. Totally leave that out of their reporting.

Is that honest reporting?

 

Message said that the video was removed for violating UTube terms of service" whatever that means.

The last video I saw as I recall the cop was already shooting while the guy was still walking upright. I do remembers that the guy bent down into the door but what I also recall is that the cop shot at the guys back at all times. So the giybwas never facing the cops when he was shot.

You say theybeat stash their guns on the side of the seat. True unless they are legally carrying and use a holster. Yet do we have evidence that the guy actually did have a gun stashed there? If hevdid have a guy there and he had kids in the car that is exposing the kids to a risk of the kid playing with the gun.

You are criticis me for saying that is looks like an execution but you are concluding that this guy did all of the things that people may do and you attribute that to this guy.

It is as if you said " people shoot cops when they are being apprehended so you attribute that to this guy.

 

Most people think of someone being armed as actually having a gun showing. Yes technically you are armed with a knife. Did the UTube video show a knife before it was taken down?