Maxine Waters: Congress Can Remove Trump Without Impeachment

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  1. TurnerAshby

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    Heres where I will agree with you I think Democrats should just pass Republicans 1trillion bill then after they win the 2020 elections pass the rest
     
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    Yes except the the state seems to help the biggest ones first if not only
     
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    That's your perception, I'm sure.
     
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    Yes the saying "money makes the world go round" is false
     
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    If so, why do you support the Democrat plan to spend $3,000,000,000,000 we don't have?
     
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    The monster has already passed in the House, it wont pass in the Senate and Democrats wont be taking that.
     
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    What I'm saying is take the trillion deal now and when Democrats take over after 2020 pass the rest
     
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    No no first let's stay on the topic of why bigger businesses get helped first.....

    You said it's my perception and I said "money makes the world go round". What I meant was those big businesses do get helped first or only because they have the money

    Onto this question....

    We the taxpayers will pay regardless when it comes to a relief bill... either give the money to the people or give more money to welfare/courts/police when people go hungry and crime rates increase
     
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    They wont get the chance because they're not taking the Senate. Huge edges were lost when the demographics that could have delivered enough close races to produce a majority shift were obliterated by the BLM/ANTIFA riots and to a lesser extent Harris as running mate.

    Of course if Dems get activist judges in enough districts to put a stay on ballot harvesting bans then enough election fraud could make that all moot.
     
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    BLM matters that were made worse due to a poor economy under who? The pandemic flop is a much bigger story
     
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    Yes, the GOP's anti-mask anti-science response to COVID has put them at a strong disadvantage in more than a few, mostly southern, states but understand that is the edge I was referring to as being obliterated. Those key demographics that were trending away from the GOP mid-COVID outbreak are now all trending back post-BLM race riot.

    And I refuse to entertain any notion that the BLM riots are due to a "poor economy". These Marxists terrorists are simply out giving into the primal human instinct for violence. They feel entitled to do these things, they see it as their 'right', they feel empowered and justified under who - that's right Democrats. Listen to them, find them on social media, actually listen to the Marxists themselves. They care not for the economy or jobs, they see rioting and looting and torching buildings as "reparations" their words.
     
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    "And I refuse to entertain any notion that the BLM riots are due to a "poor economy".
    Historically speaking civil unrest and poor economy goes hand in hand..... LA riots detroit riots etc etc
     
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    Say riots, please, will you just say riots. Civil unrest makes it sound like a few people are upset the dog walking park closed half an hour early. These are massive, violent, nation wide RIOTS. And while, yes, RIOTS cause produce poor economic conditions such as on a local level where hundreds lose their jobs due to burned out buildings or looted shops, there is no direct causality link between low economic status and mass rioting.

    Once again that was Marxism at work. Because the country is full of poor people and yet nearly every single major riot we've ever had has been the result of professionally trained Marxist agitators launching what they regard as "insurrection rebellions". In fact the only other real commonality in American riots is that they're usually always launched from Black communities which ***this are Marxist deep dive rhetoric not my own opinion*** they believe to be easily manipulable devices".

    https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/writers/marcy/losangelesrebellion/lareb00.html
     
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    Of course he is right...

    Unsecured voting is subject to all kinds of abuses.
     
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    No, no, lets discuss your position that money does not make the world go round, and yet you support spending $3,000,000,000,000 we don't have.
    How you not contradict yourself here?
     
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    Their governors.
     
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    Oh that famous quote from a former president....... "the buck stops at your governors desk not mine"
     
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    That wasn't my proposition lol.......... so there's your first mistake

    Money makes the world go round which is why mega corporations get a hand from the federal government first and the average joe maybe if they get around to it...

    Back to a 3 trillion bill, the tax payer in on the hook regardless whether it's a relief bill or increase in welfare policing courts and jails due to economic troubles nationwide
     
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    I'm sorry you don't like the fact the governors, having the power to do so, shut down the economies of their states, not the President -- but it remains a fact.
    The President, see, has no such power.
     
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    And incite mob violence against public servants, she cray cray fo sho!
     
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    You said:
    Yes the saying "money makes the world go round" is false
    This does not differ in any meaningful way from "money does not make the world go round".
    And so, yes, that is your proposition.
    You failed to address the question:
    Why do you support the Democrat plan to spend $3,000,000,000,000 we don't have?
     
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    No that's called sarcasm

    I just did answer the question and here it goes again we the tax payer pay either way and id prefer the money go to the people (see tax payer) than the welfare system administrators or police or courts or prisons due to increased unemployment and higher crime rates
     
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    Ya who needs federal guidance amirite?
     
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    Uh huh. I fail to to see how you comment, then, has any relevance.
    You answer, however, does not actually address the question.
    If $3,000,000,000,000 is not too much money we do not have, how much is?
    Why?
     
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    "Guidance" is merely a suggestion that cannot be enforced.
    I'm sorry you don't like the fact the governors, having the power to do so, shut down the economies of their states, not the President -- but it remains a fact.
    The President, see, has no such power.

    So, anyone with any knowledge, and a smidgen of intellectual honesty, will blamer their governor.
     

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