Mother of Miscarried Child: ‘He Is Very Obviously Human, Not a Cluster of Cells’

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    All that blathering rant showed me was you didn't bother to read my post especially where I said :
    ""And you are quite wrong. I am not angry that some people stupidly think it's murder. I will, however, argue against that stupidity.

    Arguing against something does not mean one is angry. Are YOU always angry when you disagree?""


    ..and where I said you do not pay for abortions ....but it's fun if you think you do, there are millions of them :)


    Nobody said you don't have a right to free speech but there are rules in this forum whether you like them or not:)


    BTW, this is the Abortion Forum NOT the Religion Forum.
     
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    Wonder how long it'll take for the pro-aborts to support forced abortion like they do in China?
     
  3. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    A. There are no "pro-Aborts"


    B. Pro-choice is all about preserving rights... women have rights even if the Anti-Choicers want it to be like in China where women don't have reproductive rights.


    C. Can you explain what China has to do with the topic?
     
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    It's the next logical step the pro abortion crowd, like you want. Artificial population "control".
     
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    And there is no such thing as "reproductive" rights. The ONLY rights, that of life, liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness, are those given by God.
     
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    No , you have shown no logic. Preserving women's rights to their own bodies is hardly a slippery slope to "artificial population control ".....



    Do please show WHERE I ever said I was Pro-Abortion? Or stop saying that I am....because that 's a lie and you wouldn't want to be known as a liar, would you?

    Show where I said I want artificial population control. Or stop saying that I am....because that 's a lie and you wouldn't want to be known as a liar, would you?
     
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    Call them what you want but women have rights, that of life, liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness, JUST LIKE YOU DO. And , LIKE YOU, have a right to their own bodies.

    .....and god has nothing to do with it, the LAW has everything to do with it :)
     
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    The ONLY people wanting to use FORCE on women are Anti-Choicers, rapists and China....they have so much in common...

    Pro-Choice is for preserving freedom, Anti-Choicers are for destroying it.
     
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    Look at all the abortionists doing everything possible to change the subject from the baby to their own body.

    Pictures are the abortionists worst fear, pictures show its a human baby and not a "blob of cells". All the selfish screaming of "But its MY body!" amounts to little against pictures of the baby.


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    So protecting one's body is "selfish" ? It is HER body, it certainly isn't YOURS.

    If You are so Unselfish then I'm sure you won't mind if you are forced to give up your heart or other body part to sustain someone else's life. RIGHT!?


    I don't see any "abortionists" doing any subject changing...where are they, who are they, got links?

    You can call a fetus anything you like but it is part of a woman's body and hers to do with as she pleases EXACTLY like YOU are able to do.



    The ONLY people wanting to use FORCE on women are Anti-Choicers, rapists and China....they have so much in common...

    Pro-Choice is for preserving freedom, Anti-Choicers are for destroying it.
     
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    That is absolutely false. I have held premature babies younger than 26 weeks, they do feel pain, they do feel a needle and react to it, they react to human voices and touch and recognize their mothers voice. They also learn the routine of the hospital. If you spend any amount of time with them, you see they are not little "sea slugs".
     
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    Given the choice between saving 1,000 embryos like the one in your picture, or a single week-old baby, which would you choose and why? No tap dancing allowed - it's one or the other, and whichever you don't pick is going to be snuffed out of existence the moment you decide. Make a choice and explain it to the rest of the class...
     
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    fact is, almost all abortions are long before then unless their is a health complication down the road

    this is from a pro-life site

    http://www.abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/

    "89-92% of all abortions happen during the first trimester, prior to the 13th week of gestation (AGI/CDC)."

    only 1.3% are greater then 20 weeks, which means all the rest are before 20 weeks
     
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    You pose a false situation. Its not either save an embryo or save a single week old baby. Restate your question.
     
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    how about this, a mad fertility doctor clones 1000 Hitlers and implants them in women, they find out at 10 weeks, would you force them to have the baby or let them abort?
     
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    Another false situation.

    You cannot clone a persons personality. You cannot clone a "Hitler", to create 1,000 Hitlers requires recreating the personal, emotional and social environment that Hitler grew up in, you have to recreate Hitlers life experiences - including his experience in WW1.

    Ask your real question without trying to be cute.
     
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    Who said they were sea slugs?

    YA, BORN babies feel pain DUHHHH...great observation! Wowser! Ya, BORN babies recognize their mother's voices and BORN babies react to touch !!

    What a brilliant revelation!!! Now WHO said they didn't????
     
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    He said, no tap dancing allowed....you tap danced, squirmed , wriggled and did the Siskyou Two-Step :)
     
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    Because he knows that if he DOES answer, it shatters his already stated position.
     
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    You pose a false situation when you equate embryos with newborn babies. Answer the question as asked.
     
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    well I would not want 1000 cloned Hitlers in the world, but it would not be my choice, I would allow the women to chose for themselves, we known now how you woudl decide, would you let others decide for themselves too
     
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    Directly ask your real question without trying to be cute or framing it in impossible and irrelevant conditions.
     
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    You know how I would decide? Then tell me.
     
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    Judging from your posts you would FORCE the women to gestate.....
     
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    As usual, you are wrong. You still don't read. That's why I ignore 99% of your posts.
     

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