MUCH More Obamacare TRUTH

Yes.....lets get back to your mans failure in the works.


Ouch: Some Of Chicago’s Largest Hospitals Won’t Participate In ACA Market On Obama’s Home Turf ......


Well, things are just going from bad to worse for Obamacare as we prepare to enter 2017. First, we’re going to experience double-digit increases in premium rates; CNN tried to say that Indiana would see a three percent cut—the state’s department of insurance commissioner laid down the law: double-digit increases for “many Hoosiers.”

Second, the Democratic Governor of Minnesota Mark Dayton finally admitted that the law is unaffordable. Third, there are now only six of the original 23 Obamacare co-ops left, these networks were meant to spur competition and provide Obamacare plans to those in rural areas. Even with the six that are (barely) functioning, the whole system is on the verge of collapse. Now, on Obama’s home turf of Chicago, some of the city’s largest hospitals are saying no more to participating in the Obamacare market next year (via WBEZ 95.1 Chicago):

Some of Chicago’s largest hospitals said they will not be part of any Cook County Affordable Care Act marketplace plans in 2017.

University of Chicago Medical Center and Rush University Medical Center both said they don’t plan to be in network for any Obamacare marketplace plans next year.

The change means patients with doctors at those hospitals will either need to find a plan off the marketplace, and lose Obamacare subsides, or find a new doctor.

Northwestern Memorial Hospital said it will also be out of the marketplace, but will have exceptions for some of its partner hospitals.....snip~

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...te-in-aca-market-on-obamas-home-turf-n2237134


Poetic Justice.

 

FDR and his Soviet inspired reforms took the US from a recession into a depression. Unemployment never fell below 14% in his non WWII years. And in fact those policies caused a second recession in the Great Depression.

The subsidies are paid for by US tax payers. ObamaCare results in a net reduction in US economic growth. The only outcome of ObamaCare has been an expansion of Medicaid.

 

first of all health care costs have nothing to do with the cost of "health insurance".

But if you are saying health insurance premiums are going down, you would be wrong. As per Obamas recent announcements. And HHS.

As far as the cost of providing health care, that too has gone up due to over regulation and cost of goods, salary, rent and so on. The only thing that has gone down is what medicare, medicaid and exchange plans pay providers for their services and that is not sustainable as it is putting providers in the RED. I only respond to your posts so others can get the real truth and not your twisted, unknowledgable junk you post. I have worked in health information management nearly 38 years now, I think I know a thing or two.

 

To add to your post:

Mr. Truth stated

Unfortunately Mr. Truth does not speak the truth. Health care costs had been declining for ~ 10 years before ObamaCare. And they have been going up since the ACA was implemented. The facts sometimes get in the way of a good ACA narrative.

 

As usual, you forgot to include the cost of the blood tax of 45,000 dead Americans every year due to lack of health care coverage. This holocaust that so many of you in the far right is a delight denied to you nowadays. Deal with it.




"In 2015, due in part to the ACA, health-care spending grew at the slowest rate on record (since 1960). Meanwhile, health care price inflation is at its lowest rate in 50 years."


http://obamacarefacts.com/costof-obamacare/

 

What's the source of the 45,000 deaths per year due to lack of health care ?? And how has ObamaCare reduced that number ??

http://www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20160713/news/160719963

 

discussed previously - click search on this forum for more details

 

It's an inflated bogus number. The Harvard study is flawed:

http://www.conservativeblog.org/amy...ot-die-annually-because-they-are-uninsur.html

 

The Harvard study is perfect. Only deluded right wingers with a pro death agenda disagree.

 

Mr. Truth has spoken ?? All right wingers are pro death.

How many fewer deaths have resulted from ObamaCare ??

 

Do you see any study that shows 45,000 Americans dying today thanks to ACA?


Of course, not.


ACA = saving money and lives every day. Thank you Mr Obama!

 

You quote the Harvard study which indicates that 45,000 deaths a year result from lack of health insurance. Since ObamaCare has been implemented where are the studies which show a decline in that number ??

 

He isn't real good with the Truth.....is he?

 

He overlooks the fact that 100% of people on Obamacare will die.

 

Where are the studies that show any deaths arising from ACA? After all, you deluded right wingers keep telling us that it is the greatest evil in human history but you fail to back up your illusory claims with any facts.




http://obamacarefacts.com/2016/09/12/states-who-embraced-the-aca-are-having-more-success/

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... meaning that Republicanism is the way to eternal life as well as salvation which will spare you from death.






What a laugh!

 

Yes, your logical fallacy is a laugh. Too bad the (un)Affordable Care Act is slowly circling the drain.

 

LOL.

Your report of Obamacare cessation is a bit premature. Just like the earlier reports that Obama was going to be impeached, that he and his wife were going to divorce, that he would close down the internet, that he would abolish the 2d amendment, and that he would impose martial law all over the USA.


Laughable!

 

Your claim is that deaths are prevented by ObamaCare so where is the evidence.

Your link shows that the only reason that the uninsured number has gone down is through the expansion of Medicaid. But there are still tens of millions of people who are not insured. Repeal ObamaCare and implement Medicaid block grants to the states and competition in a national insurance market providing the type of insurance policies that people want is the key to getting affordable coverage to everyone who wants it.

 

He don't look at anything, other than BO and Team Weaknesses Talking points.


Americans Are Dying Faster. Millennials, Too....

Members of this 200-year-old profession who study risk and uncertainty pore over the data of death to estimate length of life. Putting aside the spiritual, that’s crucial information for insurance companies and pension plans, and it’s also helpful for planning retirement, since we need our money to last as long we do.

The latest, best guesses for U.S. lifespans come from a study (PDF) released this month by the Society of Actuaries: The average 65-year-old American man should die a few months short of his 86th birthday, while the average 65-year-old woman gets an additional two years, barely missing age 88.

This new data turns out to be a disappointment. Over the past several years, the health of Americans has deteriorated—particularly that of middle-aged non-Hispanic whites. Among the culprits are drug overdoses, suicide, alcohol poisoning, and liver disease, according to a Princeton University study issued in December......snip~

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/americans-dying-faster-millennials-too-100032333.html

 

It's clearly in the death spiral phase. Insurance companies are getting out, premiums are going up, deductibles are going up, and tax payer paid subsidies are going up. The ten year cost of ObamaCare is approaching $2T (it was sold as costing less than $1T). It cannot continue to exist in it's present form and modifications including a single payer option (although Medicaid expansion basically is the same thing) will be attempted if Hillary is elected or it will be repealed if Trump is elected.

 

It's Working: Obamacare Offers Least Amount Of Choice For Health Care Since The Law Was Enacted.....

Guy has already written about the 2017 premium Armageddon that’s about to screw over millions of Americans. The premiums hikes are expected to go up on average by double-digits; Arizona is looking at a 75 percent increase. It’s a total disaster for a law that even Bill Clinton called “the craziest thing in the world.” Yet, what about choice in the health care market? Well, for now, the law is offering the least amount in terms of choice since the law was enacted (via AP):


""Americans in the health insurance markets created by President Barack Obama's law will have less choice next year than any time since the program started, a new county-level analysis for The Associated Press has found.

The analysis by AP and consulting firm Avalere Health found that about one-third of U.S. counties will have only one health marketplace insurer next year. That's more than 1,000 counties in 26 states — roughly double the number of counties in 2014, the first year of coverage through the program.

With insurance notices for 2017 in the mail, families are already facing difficult choices, even weighing whether to stay covered.

[…]

Largely as a result of the Affordable Care Act, the nation's uninsured rate has dropped to a historically low level, less than 9 percent. But the program hasn't yet found stable footing, and it remains politically divisive. Insurer participation rose in 2015 and 2016, only to plunge.

Dwindling choice could be a trickier issue than rising premiums for the Obama administration and advocates of the 2010 law, including Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

Most customers get financial assistance, and their subsidies are designed to rise along with premiums, which are increasing an average of 25 percent in states served by HealthCare.gov. But there is no comparable safety valve for disruptions caused by insurers bailing out.""


Well, for starters, the co-ops that were established to spur competition among insurers and expand Obamacare choices to rural America have failed. Twenty-three were established, only six remain—and those are on life support as well. So, you can see how competition and choice were already on a death spiral before the AP analysis.

Still, as premiums go up, more Americans are paying the penalty to be uninsured because it’s more economical. That penalty is set to spike next year, so once again we have American families being squeezed by government on both ends. You get screwed remaining insured (due to the premium shock) or becoming uninsured (due to the penalty). Yet, the government got involved so this was predictable. Oh, and the Democrats’ solution is more government. And if you think a Clinton presidency will fix this, you’re on something stronger than heroin.....snip~

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...ealth-care-since-the-law-was-enacted-n2237838


Real Truth on BO's Special care package.

 

Have your state expand Medicaid and that will largely solve much of the problem. Just remember that NOTHING is stopping the pro death Republicans from creating and implementing their own plan. All these of silence on their part is their fault, not anyone else's.

 

The R plan is to repeal ObamaCare and replace it with needed reforms to the old system which was endorsed by 85% of those previously insured. It needs to go away and be replaced by a true national market, insurance policies designed to meet customer needs, block granting of Medicaid to the states, providing for people with pre existing conditions (one thought is to include them in the Fed Emplyee Health Insurance System), medical tort reform, and privatizing Medicare (which was being developed in Bill Clinton's second term but killed by a blue dress). Keep the gov out of health care. Look at Medicaid, VA, Medicare ...

This cannot be done with Obama (who is defending his legacy of failure for some reason) with the veto power. Obama himself has characterized ObamaCare as the self immolating Samsung Note 7 smart phone.

 

previously insured?

what did their states do to keep them insured - refused to expand Medicaid??



expand it and get coverage

 

Those previously insured before ObamaCare were very satisfied with the system. All ObamaCare has accomplished is an expansion of Medicaid. WI for example has used federal money to expand coverage to many more people using the private insurance system and reducing the number of people on Medicaid. The result was a reduction in the number of uninsured in the state of WI by ~ 225K in 2012. Medicaid is a terrible way to provide health care for low income people.

Source - "Unintimidated - A Governor's Story and a Nation's Challenge" - Scott Walker - 2013 - page 228.