Mueller closing in on Trump in Russian probe

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Actually what this shows is increasing desperation to find some, anything at all. I say this because there's this thing called attorney client privilege. What it means is that subpoenaing someone lawyer is about like subpoenaing someone's underwear in that neither one can legitimately talk.
     
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    Another Trumpster trying to make up excuses.

    We know that the reason for the subpoenas have to do with the fact that we now have documentary evidence of Trump doing business with Russians during the campaign while lying about it in public.
     
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    No debating the occurrences you cite, but I'm not sure where any criminality comes into them. Colluding? ... To do what, obtain evidence of illegal foreign campaign donations? He should get a medal. Letter of intent? Real estate developement isn't a crime. Everyone's trying to portray these events as nefarious, but no crime has been committed. Mueller's set off on a fools errand.
     
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    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mueller knows it began a long time ago. There's a treasure trove of corruption, deception, fraud and who know what else to unravel and uncover.
     
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    I'm not a fool. Here's where you are blatantly BRAINWASHED. Information leaked by investigators is usually false because investigators that are confident of the information don't leak it to the media because it could taint any court verdict.

    Investigators that DO LEAK or give information before a court verdict ARE TRYING TO TAINT THE COURT'S OUTCOME very likely because their evidence is WEAK. We don't even know if this rises to the level of a crime yet but I'm sure investigators would like it to be.

    Don't be a FOOL and believe the media's crap. Once they lie to you, and they've lied OFTEN, then it's time to stop giving them ANY CREDIBILITY.

    That's called using critical thinking skills refined over a period likely longer than you've been alive.

    Steve
     
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    Muellers collusion / election interference probe came up empty. He'll be looking to see if Trump had any NYPD parking tickets "fixed" next. :roflol:
     
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    Oops, I thought that post was Fitz again.

    Yeah, like I said previously, it's hilarious that FITZ doesn't even have a minimal amount of skepticism to what FITZ is being told.

    Steve
     
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    Stop throwing out those reminders of fact; it just gets them royally confused and temporarily throws them off their game.
     
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    There is a difference between stating obvious facts and making up excuses you should learn the difference.
     
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    None of which changes the fact that your line abempaout anonymous sources is bogus in relation to the topic of this thread.

    Are you claiming that Mueller has not subpoened the people mentioned? Are you telling us that this is an "anonymous leak" by prosecutors to "taint a case". Remember that a Grand Jury that has been seated for some time is involved.

    You are the one making up scenarios here.

    And you are the one impugning the investigator's motives, without any evidence to support that supposition.

    The rest of us are discussing the known facts.
     
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    Oh boy! Here comes the impeachment!
    lol
     
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    The people mocking the investigation will probably be the first ones to cry for a revolution or some such nonsense when Trump finally is brought down by it.
     
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    You will have to explain. We do know that Trump was doing business with the Russians, even as he stood up in front of TV cameras and lied to you about it.

    That's a fact.

    Who is making up excuses? You?
     
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    Sorry, it isn't, last I checked, illegal to do business with Russians and he didn't lie about it.
     
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    Fools rush in where angels fear to tread definition. Foolish people are often reckless, attempting feats that the wise avoid.


     
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    Moar unnamed sources PLZ.
     
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    Expect the usual warnings about "civil unrest" from various far right wing AM talk radio hosts and a few crackpot politicians.
     
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    Hey , they do get an A for effort . Lol.
     
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    So unlike the actual violent left who don't talk about it they beat heads.
     
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    Yes, he lied openly and publicly about it, repeatedly, BTW.

    Here is only the most recent example:

    "President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer acknowledged Monday that the president’s company pursued a Trump Tower in Moscow during the Republican primary, but that the plan was abandoned “for a variety of business reasons.” He said that at one point he sent an email to the spokesman for Russian President Vladimir Putin about approvals from the Russian government."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...a169beb0953_story.html?utm_term=.da67b7f7142f

    That isn't a rumor, or an anonymous source.

    That's a candidate for office of the President of the United States having his legal team reach out to the leader of a foreign rival to grease the skids on a real estate deal.....Doing business with the Russians.

    Here he is, six months later, lying about it.

     
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    Trump will not be impeached.
    Trump will not resign.
    Trump will remain President until his term(s) expire.
    And there's noting you can do about it.
     
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    I think you are wrong. Trump will most likely end up resigning since his ego will not stand being impeached; that way he can claim the MSM was responsible for him being unable to effectively function as president. It's his (in his mind) graceful exit from the Presidency.
     
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    He said he didn't collude with them. Doing business with and colluding with aren't the same things. Please note further if I own a large real estate company it is like that I'm not even in the room when most of the deals are finalized, I've got other people whose job it is to take care of the details. Same is true for apartment and condominiums under my control.
     
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    They know this. They don't care. It's all about making connections, however dishonest, to sway public opinion.
     
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    And even if your allegations are correct, where is the crime ?? Hint - there is none. Ask Dershowitz.
     

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