Mueller probing Russia contacts at Republican convention

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lee Atwater, Mar 29, 2018.

  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,126
    Likes Received:
    39,234
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Likely, maybe, might have and the Senate is not a group of cybersecurity experts or criminal investigators. And again Russia has ALWAYS tried to interfere in elections here as we do there.
     
  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,126
    Likes Received:
    39,234
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The PRESIDENT of Crowdstrike said they had no evidence of what you claim.
     
    garyd likes this.
  3. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,126
    Likes Received:
    39,234
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Nope.
     
  4. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2017
    Messages:
    45,716
    Likes Received:
    26,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That is patently false.
     
  5. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2017
    Messages:
    45,716
    Likes Received:
    26,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    This article is an entertaining take down of the Sussmann canard that has "the Trump crowd rubbing their nipples."

    The Alfa Bank Hoax Hoax
    MAGAs once again think they have proof Hillary did the Russia scandal—and once again they are full of ****.


    Whether there was anything nefarious going on between Alfa and Trump remains a bit of a mystery. The FBI eventually closed the book on this lead—more on this a moment—resulting in a presumption that any suggestion of impropriety was false. But a satisfactory explanation for the DNS pings has never really been provided. If you want to nerd out on the various possibilities ranging from “random coincidence” to “there’s something fishy here,” the New Yorker did a deep dive on the available evidence back in 2018.

    The part of Sussmann’s trial that has the Trump crowd rubbing their nipples is testimony from Clinton 2016 campaign manager Robby Mook in which he revealed that the candidate was briefed on the potentially dubious Alfa Bank accusations and was fine with the campaign’s decision to share the information with reporters. (Point of fact: Many in the Trump orbit have stated that Clinton approved the Alfa Bank oppo’s dissemination, but Mook testified that he told her only after the campaign had shared it with a reporter.)

    This rather mundane bit of opposition-research dissemination was treated as a bombshell in the conservative press, where it has been presented as the long-yearned-for evidence that when it comes to Russia’s involvement in the 2016 election, it was Hillary who perpetrated a scheme on poor innocent Donny Trump, not the other way around.
    [​IMG]
    The Alfa Bank Hoax Hoax

    [​IMG] www.thebulwark.com
     
  6. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2012
    Messages:
    57,190
    Likes Received:
    16,896
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What a load of crap They closed the book on it because they couldn't find anything period. And so she cleared it after they already did it? That makes no sense.
     
    Last edited: May 25, 2022
  7. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2017
    Messages:
    45,716
    Likes Received:
    26,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Pick up your reading of the article at.........But this is where the Alfa Bank saga gets really interesting:
     
  8. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2017
    Messages:
    45,716
    Likes Received:
    26,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  9. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2012
    Messages:
    57,190
    Likes Received:
    16,896
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I did the article, like most you dig up on the subject is self serving pablum for those who choose to believe silly if not stupid things.
     
    Last edited: May 25, 2022
  10. cabse5

    cabse5 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2013
    Messages:
    7,217
    Likes Received:
    2,271
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    This post is misinformation.
     
  11. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2017
    Messages:
    45,716
    Likes Received:
    26,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Almost everyone is clearly an exaggeration. But an inordinate number were approached. One question being, why didn't the Trump campaign make the FBI aware of the contacts?
     
  12. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2021
    Messages:
    18,402
    Likes Received:
    12,302
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Not only did Mueller, the FBI knew, CIA, Obama, Biden, all our intelligence agencies knew...

    All documented... and undeniable.... The Obama Whitehouse was in on it... how much more "in your face" can you get and no one goes to jail..

    Strange how our Republican special prosecutor Mueller missed this.... maybe he did not do a very good job of investigation...


    ""Former CIA Director John Brennan briefed former President Obama on Hillary Clinton’s “plan” to tie the Trump campaign to Russia as a means of distracting the public from her private email server scandal before the 2016 election, according to newly declassified documents.""
    https://news.yahoo.com/dni-releases-cia-documents-hillary-204337457.html
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dni-brennan-notes-cia-memo-clinton
    https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/0...ral-on-clinton-campaigns-collusion-operation/

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG][/QUOTE]
     
  13. cabse5

    cabse5 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2013
    Messages:
    7,217
    Likes Received:
    2,271
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Maybe because the FBI didn't ask?? Maybe because it's legal for incoming presidential staffs to consult with other world leaders??
     
  14. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2021
    Messages:
    18,402
    Likes Received:
    12,302
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And all schemed with sources referring back to the same sources in a me, myself, and I merry-go-round.

    Will Obama go to jail, will Biden go to jail, will Hillary go to jail, will Brennan go to jail... Nope.

    Then throw in Hillary pushing her own made up scheme... Computer scientist she paid for an outcome. So you have Hillary, Sussmann, President Obama, then VP Biden (back when he had at least half a brain), all of our intelligence community in on this and they all knew it was being made up. Then you have the dossier which was paid for by the FBI, written with the help of the Kerry state department, paid for by the Democrat National Committee, paid for by the Clinton campaign.

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: May 25, 2022
  15. cabse5

    cabse5 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2013
    Messages:
    7,217
    Likes Received:
    2,271
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Ya know, the DNC wouldn't allow any group other than Crowdstrike to investigate the alleged DNC email hack. The FBI didn't independently investigate anything concerning the DNC email hacks. The FBI received all their info from Crowdstrike

    Side note: Crowdstrike is a firm based in and owned by Ukranians.
     
    Last edited: May 25, 2022
  16. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2017
    Messages:
    45,716
    Likes Received:
    26,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Didn't ask? Is that a joke? After the primaries both campaigns were briefed on how to handle such contacts. Surely you aren't telling me the Trump campaign didn't know it should have alerted the FBI.
    As for.......Maybe because it's legal for incoming presidential staffs to consult with other world leaders?......I'm not talking about Flynn's wildly unethical conversations with Kislyak in violation of the Logan Act. I'm talking about Papadopoulos, Manafort, and Donnie J.
     
  17. cabse5

    cabse5 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2013
    Messages:
    7,217
    Likes Received:
    2,271
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Maybe the FBI didn't ask 'cause it was legal for the incoming Trump staff to consult with Russian diplomats.:roflol:
     
    Last edited: May 25, 2022
  18. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2017
    Messages:
    45,716
    Likes Received:
    26,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  19. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2017
    Messages:
    45,716
    Likes Received:
    26,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
     
  20. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2017
    Messages:
    45,716
    Likes Received:
    26,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It was incumbent on the Trump campaign to inform the FBI of contacts from Russians.
     
  21. cabse5

    cabse5 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2013
    Messages:
    7,217
    Likes Received:
    2,271
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The problem is that the DNC wouldn't let any other group other than Crowdstrike investigate the alleged DNC hack. The 'independent FBI findings' that you and the link allude to are just findings exclusive from Crowdstrike that the FBI viewed. The FBI just said, 'Yep, the Crowdstrike report is right', er, the FBI 'independently' concluded the Crowdstrike report was right.:roflol:
     
    Last edited: May 25, 2022
  22. cabse5

    cabse5 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2013
    Messages:
    7,217
    Likes Received:
    2,271
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No it wasn't.
     
  23. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2017
    Messages:
    45,716
    Likes Received:
    26,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Actually, not a problem since the FBI was given access to Crowdstrike's forensic data.

    CLAIM: The FBI only relied on the word of a cybersecurity firm, CrowdStrike, to determine that Russia hacked the emails of the Democratic National Committee.

    AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. CrowdStrike provided forensic evidence and analysis for the FBI to review during its investigation into a 2016 hack of DNC emails.
     
  24. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2017
    Messages:
    45,716
    Likes Received:
    26,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    FBI Warns Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton Staffers to Beware of Foreign Spies in US

    Be careful when you're meeting new people in the nation's capital and elsewhere, because you could be a prime target for foreign spies.

    That's the warning FBI agents gave to presidential campaign staffers Wednesday during two separate security briefings in Washington, D.C., according to sources.

    While the briefings were portrayed as routine, they come amid increasingly aggressive efforts by foreign governments to access U.S. secrets and potentially influence upcoming elections here.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/fbi-warns-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-staffers-beware/story?id=41793321

    You never seem to tire of being wrong.
     
  25. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,007
    Likes Received:
    13,566
    Trophy Points:
    113
    why are you talking false nonsense. Crowdstrike did not concude that Russia did the DNC hack.
     

Share This Page