Nadler: Formal Impeachment procedures now underway

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Donor

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    Do you think the Russian spy who authored the Steele Dossier was trying to help Trump?:roflol:
    On the same note..... how many of those e-mails you say the Russians obtained were from the unsecured server in Hillary's bathroom?
     
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  2. yabberefugee

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    Sandy, that is a well founded fear you have there! Seeing how every Democrat wants to give a free lunch to illegals.....and that's just for starters! Face it., you are in for another sad four years.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Donor

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    Even simpler than that....every American voter understands no Democrat will work with the President no matter how good it is for America. In fact, they would prefer America going down the tubes to seeing her experience any more success under the Trump Administration. That's how you feel isn't it Sandy?
     
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    I don't understand what you're saying. How could that not happen?

    You're not following what I'm saying. They could understand it. If they were interested in understanding. They're not! People who will tilt the election will make up their minds based on 15 second sound clips and in bumper-stickers. You try to explain how impeachment works, and you will have lost their attention after 15 seconds, at most. The spin will be "the House is the one that impeaches, not the Senate". That takes less than 15 seconds.

    And BTW, by "tilt the election", I don't mean they'll vote for Trump. Their decision will be to whether to bother to go out and vote or not. And all that Republicans need to convince them of is that Trump, while not somebody they might vote for, is not as "bad" as people say. And not impeaching him would convince those who don't pay attention of that.

    That may be so. But they won't want him to have a second term just because he's impeached. Impeaching Trump won't make them "dumber".

    I don't think anybody is offering a free lunch. My favorites have always been Buttigieg and Kamala. Also Beto, but I don't think he has much of a chance. But I think anybody in the Democratic field would make a great candidate.
     
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    Seriously?
    How is free money for everyone ,with no strings attached, not a free lunch?

    UBI isn't just a just free lunch, it's billions of free lunches.
     
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    Sandy Shanks Well-Known Member Donor

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    Are you trying to get me in trouble with the mods with that incredibly stupid statement?

    Or are you just ignorant of the Steele Dossier?
     
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    Because the House is no closer to that happening than they were three months ago. Even if they get McGahn and Hicks to appear, it is very likely no meaningful testimony will be given. Don't count on them convicting Trump in the Senate.

    It takes about five seconds to explain that a Republican Senate will not remove a Republican President. Have faith in the American voter.

    Considering Trump's unpopularity, and the fact that his decisions are now impacting their investment accounts, there will be a popular uprising to remove Trump because the Senate certainly will not do it despite all the evidence the House will provide to the voter.

    Have faith in the American voter.

    I am talking about Warren. She is now second behind Biden. The others are ten or more points behind Warren.
     
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    I don't get your point. That's precisely why we need full impeachment..

    That's not the question. The question is "If Trump did anything illegal, why was he not impeached?" And that's where the explanation gets nasty.

    Ok. But then why not impeach him?

    Warren's ok. She not only has a plan for everything, but also explains how she's going to pay for it. I'd say she may be about ... fourth or fifth in my list. But polls right now are not that meaningful. Their value is mostly about who makes the debates. Those who don't make the debates are done....
     
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    The real question is,
    How will "The Russians" vote on impeachment?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Donor

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    Pocahontas not left enough for you lefty? Sure, Sanders is more outspoken. Whose your choice....?
     
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    From Wikepedia

    The Trump–Russia dossier, also known as the Steele dossier,[1] is a private intelligence report written from June to December 2016 containing allegations of misconduct and conspiracy between Donald Trump's presidential campaign and the Government of Russia during the 2016 election. The dossier comprises 17 memos and was authored by Christopher Steele,[2] a former head of the Russia Desk for British intelligence (MI6), for the private investigative firm Fusion GPS.
    There was a Russian Connection......in the least there was foreign collusion. You don't care about that at all do you Sandy? It's only Donald Trump that makes you foam at the mouth! I would never squeal to the mods about you. You lost it a long time ago.
     
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    Using a racis nickname is not going to help you make any sort of case. Any democrat in the field is welcome alternative to this White Supremacist president who is spreading racism and that you are mindlessly repeating
     
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    Ahhhhhhh! the old racist platform. Do you really think that is going to work?? Elizabeth earned that nickname when she tried to use the racist game of benefiting from a minority of which she had no part. Maybe you should stick with Booker. I think he might be half black. Kamala is part black put her ancestors owned slaves. Only go with Bernie if you are ready to admit you are an unabashed Communist as he was a member of that party.
     
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    Not so, but regardless... identifying Native Americans with Pocahontas is very racist.

    This is also very racist

    If this is going to be the attack line by white supremacists against Kamala in 2020, I think I'm liking her more and more.
     
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    What is a racis?
     
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    I do not identify American Natives with Pocahontas. I identify Elizabeth Warren with what she pretended to be. She was proved to be a fraud and even the Cherokee Nation was offended.
    Kamala is for reparations. Who pays it? Her family line owned slaves,. Not a one of mine did. Neither did all the refugees from 'Nam. So how do you single it all out? Does Obama get reparations? He is not a decendent of slaves. Kenyans owned slaves. Wonder if his white half owned slaves? See how confusing it all is?

    "What a tangled web we weave, when we first try to deceive"-------- That little ditty describes to a "T" all of you who want to play the "race game" You are the Progressive Supremacists!........the very poster children of Racism!
     
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    It's pronounced that way in "ebonics".
     
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    I think Jerry Nadler couldn't find his own backside with both hands, a GPS Unit, a road map and a tour guide.
     
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    Read what you said initially then read your own source. You are wasting my time.

    You voted for Trump, right?
     
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    Don't pay too much attention to yabberefugee. He wants you to get a mod warning.
     
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    Because we won't get straight testimony from McGahn or Hicks? That's a reason to impeach?

    Because the Senate will not remove him, as things stand now. I keep saying the latter because Trump keeps digging himself a deeper hole. Who's to say, maybe Republicans in Congress will collectively grow a brain and dump Trump. He is leading them over a slippery slope. I know. I am a Republican.

    Because the whole idea is to remove Trump. Nothing else matters, nothing! Trump and House committees are a great job of doing just that. Let's not interfere.
     
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    Everything you post is a waste. You have only one aim.....hell or highwater, facts be damned. I voted for Trump? you betcha! My entire family will definitely vote for him, and guess what?.......I wear a MAGA hat in my community and have never had any trouble!
     
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    "Facts be damned" ought to be Trump's 2020 campaign slogan.
     
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    I could tell.
     

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