Nearly HALF of France and Germany believe Islam clashes with society values – shock poll

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  1. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    societies and nations evolve over time, through mass migrations or invasions. adaptations are the reason a society succeeds and those who do it best are the most successful. its happened all over the world, back and forth.

    when europeans chose to migrate to america or africa they did it by the sword and never expected the colonized to do anything other than bend to the white mans will.

    maybe this is why some muslims expect "otherwise" [to bend the white mans will] in todays environment. speaking the language familiar to europeans.
     
  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    So is most of Goethe. Germany had its own Enlightenment which is different from the French. Some say different enough that the two are incompatible, though not glaringly so.

    And Islam had one too.

    https://www.amazon.com/Islamic-Enlightenment-Struggle-Between-Reason/dp/1520074379

    And for the 10000th time what youŕe doing is EXACTLY like condemning all of Christianity for the depredations of the Westboro Baptist Church.

    But what good is that to tell ya.? In the end you hate these people because theyŕe BROWN*, they don´t use toilet paper and the don´t have forks

    *theyŕe not even that in actual fact Set you down in many parts of Baghdad and you´d be hard pressed to say it wasn´t NYC, but Rush and Tucker know, theyŕe a whole different species, not even human really
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    Yeap .. and clearly many Arabs do NOT want to be in their 21 Large countries ... :roflol:
    That's why they invade Europe.
     
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    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Rules is what enable to live together.
    For instance, the common rule is to drive to the right. By the way, you can "to each his own values, we will let people drive to the left or the right as they prefer", any society need a few basic rules to stand or it will end into a civil war.
    Muslims have their societies where they can execute gay people and apostates, we have our own.
     
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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, you certainly are a practicing racist. Proud? Shouldn’t be.
     
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    Again, perhaps such is ultimately what is needed.
     
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    Much like the settling of the US where Christians had to get rid of them savages called Native American Indians..
     
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    No they don't adapt. That can be seen today.

    What happened to Yugoslavia?

    Nations have certainly been defeated, that is part of the evolution of mankind. Stay strong and of single objective, or be captured by someone else who does that better.

    Rome fell because people became less loyal to it. More people rejected the ideas and customs of Rome than believed in it.

    There is a reason there are tests for citizenship, etc.. among the strongest countries. This freedom of movement, with National Soverigty nothing more than words with no meaning, is the reason I believe the "European Union" is doomed to failure. It goes against the evolution of the human species.
     
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    And because they started to rely on goth, frankish, vandals, alans.

    Furthermore, Rome wasn't anymore that nation based on this harsh discipline idea, but was corrupted with hedonic behaviour. It's the same situation in Europe right now.
     
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    I wonder why?

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    Don't forget population aging.
     
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    Migration isn't a solution, at the opposite it worsen the problem.
     
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    BS. The progress of Man rests upon the independent mind, not the traditionalists, not the conservatives, and certainly not some collective mores.

    It’s the Galileos, the Copernicus, Edisons, the Rockefellers, the Carnagies, the Jobs, the Gates, etc., i.e., the creative independent mind that tooks from the cave to exploring the solar system, not the keepers of the faith.
     
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    And you explain the success of America, how?
     
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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is pure nazism. Race as national identity.
    America isn’t based on the racism, it’s founding principle is individualism, which it’s intellectuals love to forget.
     
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  16. ocean515

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    You claim the evolution of the human species is bullshit?

    I agree it was independent minds that no doubt must have attracted others to join, which led to villages, towns, cities, etc., etc..

    The only thing the creation of States and Nations has to do is that it gave rise to such individuals. They were places where similar ideals and culture fostered such creativity.
     
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    pride is a sin so im not proud of anything and have a whatever for calling a white guy a racist towards white guys lol
     
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    Like minded people who rejected the ideals and culture they were being controlled by.

    They set about establishing a new nation founded on written principles of law and conduct. They put it in writing and ratified them.

    It seems you are fixated on race. Race has nothing to do with acceptance of the ideals and customs of a Nation.

    A Nation is enhanced by the influence of many people from different parts of the world.

    A Nation is harmed when each of them demand their own customs be allowed when in conflict with the Nations ideas and customs.
     
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  19. Starjet

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    Nope. I claim your using biological evolution to justify racism and nationalism is BS.

    Man is a being of reason and can only flourish in rational cultures. That is the reason the Muslim East floundered, and the Christian West prospered. What Islam needs is a Thomas Aquinas to reintroduce it to Aristotle.
     
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    Race has nothing to do with what I have been commenting about.

    Seems you're the one with a race problem.
     
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    nobody wants to be told what to do by a capitalist megalomaniac. this is why things eventually fall apart as seen with the EU and why britain has chosen to leave the "nation state". Britain is an example of what happens when a society [EU] have conflicting principles and ethics
     
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    A racist is anyone who uses race to explain the success of one’s existence.

    Ayn Rand: “Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism. It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man’s genetic lineage—the notion that a man’s intellectual and characterological traits are produced and transmitted by his internal body chemistry. Which means, in practice, that a man is to be judged, not by his own character and actions, but by the characters and actions of a collective of ancestors.” http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/racism.html
     
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    Oh spare me the Ali shuffle.
     
  24. Esau

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    what spooky is trying to say is that Jacob Zuma is right when he takes all the land off the white farmers who invaded south africa with bombs, guns and chemical weapons.
     
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    Care to explain:

    “when europeans chose to migrate to america or africa they did it by the sword and never expected the colonized to do anything other than bend to the white mans will”
     

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