Nearly HALF of France and Germany believe Islam clashes with society values – shock poll

can we not right the wrongs?

 

What's the link with the original post ?

 

do you have ocean on ignore?

 

I apologize. I did confuse you with Esau. You most assuredly did not use the phrase “white man”.

However, my understanding of your posts is: Mankind’s success depends upon biology, in this case, evolution. In other words, his genes and DNA—as in the “the survival of the fittest”, according to nature. And that is pure racism.

Though it is true nature evolved Man into a being of reason, it’s Man’s free will to choose to think or not. And I don’t care how many superstitious beings gather together to build communities of shared superstitions, they will never rise above the level of living in dark, dirty, damp hovels, afraid to come into the light.

Those societies that are based upon the rights of man will explore new galaxies; those that don’t will fade into oblivion.

 

I’d suggest: Shared values of the tribe, like the South. Or, in today’s political terms, a consensus of the majority.

BTW: The vote is highly over rated. Hitler received many of them.

 

I believe for the most part, we are.

Slavery in most Nations is against the law. Women in most Nations are allowed to vote. But, it is up the people in those Nations to decide, based on their ideals and culture.

 

The reason many Muslims have trouble accepting Western values is because they value subservience to Allah over reason; which is in direct conflict to the West’s enshrinement of reason as the ideal to bow to and worship.

It’s either reason or faith. There is no inbetween. The men of faith will always resort to force as their final argument; the men of reason rely on facts.

 

I have not singled out DNA, biology, or anything along those lines. I have not mentioned race, ethnicity, or anything along those lines.

I consider mankind, or to be more specific, the human species, to include every form and variation of it.

I agree that societies that stifle man are likely to die off. The historical record has certainly pointed to that inevitable result.

However, societies that don't protect the common good for all it's citizens, will die off as well. History has shown that to be inevitable as well.

That is why I believe it's important to recognize why Nations exist, and why the need to maintain their individual sovereignty must be recognized.

Uncontrolled migration of people who have no desire to integrate will be a disaster for the host, as well as the visitor.

 

Your ascribing man’s success to evolution; I ascribed to it free will, an attribute of reason. Man is man because he chooses to be, not because nature forces him to be.

Nazi Germany existed to defend the Ayran nation. It failed for that reason. America exists to protect the rights of man, that’s why it’s the greatest nation, ever.

Your reliance on evolutionary social mores to protect the common good is nonsense. The only social good there is is the right to be free to live as you see fit.

 

There are few nations populated by one person.

It wasn't one person who put man on the moon.

 

No, it was men of vision each using his independent reasoning mind to reach a desired goal.

Just as there are few nations that recognize the rights of the one. Ever read Ibsen's, The Majority of One?

 

No, haven't read it.

It was a Nation grounded in similar ideals and customs, supporting groups of men and women of vision, who put man on the moon.

 

Ah, collective will. And the reasoning mind? A figment of man’s imagination. The independent soul. Delusional. Society, the grand inquisitor.

It is true that certain cultures are fertile soil for man’s mind, e.g., the Western nation’s; and certain cultures are barren soil for man’s minds, e.g., the Aztecs, the Mayans, African tribes, Australia’s Aborigines, the Indian Nations, the Soviet Union, Cuba, Venezuela, and many others, but in the end, it is the Edison’s that move us foward; not the Lenins and the BF Skinners.

 

Tune in for more "duh" at 11, Germany and France.

 

White people, next question please.

 

The rest were smart enough to lie so the police don't show up to interrogate them.

 

i was thinking more about the wrongs done in south africa, a brutal occupation which resulted in the minority whites who now own most of the fertile land and the mineral resources. this wrong has yet to be righted. how can we in the west help correct this?

 

Quit pandering to the natives, to savages, to tribalism, and fight for the sovereignty of each individual over his life.

 

You certainly are welcome to your biases. I'm simply stating fact from the history of mankind.

 

I think the vanquished have never done well throughout history. That seems to correct itself over time. Apartheid, an similar policies, are abhorrent to me.

I do think it illustrates why National sovereignty and the power to protect it, is vital for the citizens to maintain and control.

 

That's the project of the USA, not France or Germany.

@Esau No, still either you and him are totally off topic, there is enough threads about that.

 

You are extremely confused about things.

Man is man because Nature made "him" so. He didn't decide to change from toad to man because he exercised his free will.

Nazi Germany existed because enough people of similar ideas and culture decided they had the best idea, and thought they could spread it around the globe.

What they learned is those nations they sought to control were full of people who didn't agree, and Nazi Germany was defeated.

The United States is bound by a singular document that serves as the foundation of it's ideas and culture, and which demands it's citizens be bound by and live by. Where do you think those idea come from, the sky? They came from previous experience with Nations that didn't ascribe to those ideas.

 

The British are more tolerant compared to the Germans and French, which seems to be the main point of the article published by the right-wing rag. Only a small number of people in either Germany (7 percent) or France (5 percent) said they were “very familiar” with Islam.

 

Yes, they're more tolerant aswell with mass rape of white underage girl by pakistanis.

"Tolerance" is what led to Paris and Nice attacks.

 

Well, if there is one thing history shows: The majority of the the majority of humans are wrong about the majority of that which they believe.