Nikki Haley to UN on North Korea's nuclear program: 'Enough! is enough!

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  1. Mac-7

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    Communist propaganda?

    Get serious
     
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    I think they are taught to lie. ..and it's all for Soros' 'Open Society' for his borderless World Order. So much for honesty and the American Puritanism this country was built on. It's dead and gone. Everything is manipulation, manipulation, manipulation.

     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What about today and what the American coalition has done to Mosul and Raqqa? You better start looking past the MSM propaganda, unless you want to end up like Nazi Germany.

    Don't think we're going to escape the suffering we impose on others. We're not!
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No one knows what Trump is doing. He's trying to hold on to his base, while at the same time appease the 'globalist' deep state so they won't impeach him.
     
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    War is the natural order of things, has gone on forever, and has nothing to do with stock markets, debt, overpopulation or automation.

    After all these thousands of years it should never come as a surprise anymore and we just have to be prepared for it. There has always been Kim Jong Uns in this world and unless there is a serious change in human DNA, there always will be.
     
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    Why? These are the same people who were 'neutral' on Nazism, Communism and Fascism but profited from each.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He must ignore his 'base' and just do the right thing. That's what leaders are expected to do.
     
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    The Communists in North Korea, supported by the Soviets and Chinese, were the aggressors against the South. It was a UN response to the Communist aggression - though they were led by Americans .
     
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    Unfortunately, Trump has just 'tucked-tail' and run the other way. Now, he's NOT going to use military action to get rid of the lethal North Korean threat... instead, he's going to rely on sanctions....

    This is hilarious. I checked, and at least 104 different countries engage in business relations with North Korea, including China (of course). So what does Trump imagine that we're going to do... have no further trade with CHINA? Imagine the shelves of Walmart and nearly every other store in the United States being absolutely BARE!

    Ah, the unbelievable idiocy of the whole thing in astounding! We have the military ability to completely destroy North Korea, piece by piece, bit by bit, with great selectivity if we want to -- but instead -- we're going to pursue the insanity of a "CASH REGISTER WAR" with these delusional idiots instead. It won't stop North Korea in the slightest, of course, and it paves the way for the truly insane, Islamo-Nazi 'religious' idiots in Iran to quickly follow suit.

    Now, I've got only one reason that I'm still glad that I voted for Trump -- the Supreme Court. But, nearly everything else has been a profound disappointment, and we've got another three and a half years to go. What a choice we had! Hilarity Clinton or Donald Trump. Would you rather eat a plate of sh*t, or a plate of vomit...? :knifefork:

    And, will we even get to finish eating this presidential "dinner" before World War III begins...?
     
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    Remember the old adage that truth is always the first victim of war. The poster you quoted is either guessing, is a propagandist, or has been propagandized.
     
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    so Hitler dint rise out of hyperinflation in Germany?
     
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    The President and his advisors haven't ruled out a military response. He could be just going through the motions in order to demonstrate that he had tried every other alternative. Sanctions won't work with Kim any more than they did with Saddam Hussein, and everyone must know that.
     
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    That may have been one of the excuses but it wasn't the cause. Cherry picking won't refute the history of war.
     
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    yeah LOL if kim can hit it dead center with a H-bomb maybe the mega eruption will happen sooner then expected:eekeyes:
     
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    Also the same people who gave us the Red Cross. Do you really think the Swiss could handle Nazi Germany and the USSR? But even the Nazis knew it was better to leave the Swiss be while trying to create their Empire. We can trust the Swiss.
     
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    Then they can get the Red Cross to negotiate. The Swiss were used by the Nazis as a place to secure their war crimes looting, as well as dictators of every stripe, and that is a historical stain that will not disappear.. The world doesn't need Swiss 'neutrality' when it comes to a choice between good and evil.
     
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    The Americans can't abandon SK; NK has a history of aggression.
     
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    Frankly we need to deploy forces so we can in force engage North Korea, arm South Korea with enough tactical nukes to prevent the North Koreans from going to a nuclear response and set a clear deadline once in place North Korea and its entire government step-down for free elections even if with all communists in different flavors and gives up their nuclear program under UN oversight or we will attack and this time not stop until we march to the Chinese border and eliminate their government at gunpoint.

    At the same time offer any soldiers in the North all the MRE's and food for their families and aid we can if they overturn their leaders by force and end the nuclear program and follow that up with massive aid.

    One way or another we will take the government out.
     
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    but south korea arm forces isn't the same as the 1950s they can fend for themselves now, it$ like we are giving them welfare helping them out military they will never get on their feet and stand up for their own borders..
     
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    In any war, SK would never fight just SK. It would also involve China, just like in the 1950's.
     
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    Here's a bit by Assange as to why the US has been provoking conflict with N. Korea:

    "South Korea is China's Cuba. By provoking conflict with the North, US is creating cover to place THAAD etc. on China's border… Is the ultimate goal to get U.S. nukes into South Korea? If so, expect China to act. It has plenty of economic and military levers," Assange wrote on Twitter.
    The border of S. Korea is about 400 miles from Vladisvostok, so if Washington's intent is to get nukes into S. Korea, is it then just for China, or to threaten Vladisvostok? Russia's survival right now is as dependent on it, as it was on Syria before.
     
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    China has probably looked at a cost/benefit analysis and over the long term can't see them supporting the North Korean dictatorship. Both countries may have been allies once, with the same Communist roots, but nostalgia is no substitute for today's reality.
     
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    Thus says the MSM. And Iraq had weapons of mass destruction too remember?
     
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    This is overthinking the situation and an excuse not to act. China flexed while Obama was President but doubt that would happen now. Putin must know he has nothing to fear from the US. Of the three only Russia and China have a history of expansionism.
     
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    Thus saith the history books. It was Communist North Korea, with the support of the Soviets and Chinese, which first attacked the South,
     

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