Nikki Haley to UN on North Korea's nuclear program: 'Enough! is enough!

I didn't think he was worth a response. Thanks Woogs!

 

But the big difference between Saddam Hussein and Kim Jong-un is that Saddam didn't have anything, Fred. Kim Jong-un definitely has thermonuclear hydrogen bombs and ICBM's to deliver them with to any point in the world (if you can put a satellite into orbit, as NK has already done, no place on the Earth is safe from you....).

We should have already dropped hundreds of thermobaric bombs on North Korea right after Kim shot an ICBM right over Japan. Instead, Trump is being guided by internationalists, central bankers, pacifists, and their stooges, meaning that we're going to stumble along through a useless, pointless "cash register war" of 'sanctions'.

I knew from examining that horrible "Iran deal" we blundered into under Obama that liberal Democrats like John Kerry, and Hilarity Clinton were capable of chaining us to policies that guarantee World War III, but I never expected this kind of negligence and sheer obliviousness from Donald Trump!

. "... and you morons think that I'm the one who's insane...?!"

 

So the US doesn't break international law and invade at will, and we aren't a rogue nation? Thanks for that bit of news.

As for the Russian Federation, didn't they allow the Eastern European nations to hold referendums and declare their freedom? Doesn't look like expansionism to me. Anyway the Soviet Union is dead, but we are now its successor... in everything. Propaganda, brain washing, liberalism, secularism, etc.

The USSR was a one world order political system with headquarters in Moscow, while we as its successor, are a one world order system with headquarters in Washington. Neither of these systems could co exist with others, and this is why we push for regime changes and start wars.

The difference between us and the Soviet Union is that instead of everything being government owned, everything in our system is corporate owned. Whoever owns the corporations, and I believe it comes down to five people, controls the world.

Tyranny anyone!

 

Wasn't it NK that began the Korean War? And haven't they bombed some SK islands? SK just ignores the aggressions.

 

But aching will not accept American troops in NK, along their border.

 

Parls of wisdom from our UN Ambassador:

 

I'm not certain that matters. The thing is that it was assumed he had them, and Saddam did nothing to dispel that idea. But of course there were other reasons apart from WMD, and reasons similar to what Kim is doing to the people of North Korea - though that's seldom mentioned.

There's a lot of truth in what you say. The pressures on him must be huge and perhaps that's why Obama preferred to do nothing, or why GWB needed a Coalition for Iraq. Thousands or millions of lives may be at stake no matter what decision he makes. Acting earlier would likely have prevented all of this and for that reason perhaps Iraq wasn't such a bad idea, though abandoning it in 2011 certainly was..

It was incompetence writ large, but that plumpish lady may now just be clearing her throat.

 

There'll probably be a way around that. Something will be negotiated.

 

Unless they can rid the world of Jong Un, they're going to squeeze him financially until he does something really stupid... then there will be a war millions of refugees and not even speculating on the body count.

 

It seems this 'international law', whichever one that is, only applies to the United States. What about international law regarding North Korea, China or Russia, as just three examples.

Russian and other members of the USSR, like North Korea, refused to allow people to leave, to exercise other options in their lives. It was evil and we should remember that. The world is a better place without Communism and the USSR.

Obviously most people in the world would prefer the latter than the former. That people fled member nations of the USSR, or tried to, while people are desperate to enter the USA, should tell us all we really need to know.Anyone can leave the USA but the population continues to grow.

That may be true but corporations can be brought under control, or fail. But governments tend to have far more power than corporations and abuse that power most everywhere in the world. Corporations too if they can get away with it but not to the same extent. Perhaps those five people you refer to will die off soon and their incompetent progeny take over.. But either way we can largely ignore them and get along with our lives quite well, if we choose to.

 

It is hypocritical of the United States to call upon the UN Security Council to take action while at the same time not limiting the actions of the United States to actions authorized by the Security Council. The US, by ignoring the Security Council in taking independent actions undermines the power of the Security Council to resolve conflict.

Absolutely true. It is the threat that the United States represents to North Korea that is undeniably behind the development of the nuclear weapon and missile technology by North Korea. Since the signing of the Armistice Agreement on 27 July 1953 ended the fighting of the Korean War the United States has maintained military forces on the border with North Korea ready to invade North Korea at any moment. Our military forces are and they're unquestionably backed up by the nuclear arsenal of the United States at least in the opinion of North Korea.

North Korea realized that the only defense against the overwhelming military force that the United States represents is the "nuclear" deterrent. Past president's have minimized the threat the US represents to North Korea by refraining from making any threats of military action against North Korea. That never convinced North Korea that the United States wasn't a threat but instead it only convinced North Korea that the threat wasn't imminent.

Our current president is completely unaware of history and has never been diplomatic in any of his actions. He's always been the "bully" that believes he can make others submit based upon intimidation. That's not going to work with North Korea and his threats have merely increased the threat and the response to the threat by the North Koreans. He can arguably push North Korea over the edge where it would believe that the United States is going to attack effectively forcing North Korea to attack before it's ability to do so is diminished or lost.

The solution has been there all along for decades. The US needed to withdraw it's military forces from South Korea to remove the threat that the United States represents to North Korea. South Korea doesn't require 25,000 US soldiers to defend itself from a North Korean invasion. A defense treaty with the United States in the event of a North Korean invasion is all that South Korea requires.

What possible help can Switzerland provide. President Trump called upon China to help resolve the problems with North Korea and when China advised the United States to back down it's threat against North Korea by delaying the joint military exercises for the defense of South Korea President Trump refused. How is anyone going to help us if we refuse to listen to their advice?

 

People are so how can I put it aptly.. Narrow minded? Can't see the forest for the trees? Blinders on? Worried about the little things? Business as usual?

Your catching my drift.

Psst. Psst. Hey listen closely. Ima whisper this < looks around > If China doesn't do something like right now? I'm talking days? To show us they intend to really help? KJU is going to do something else stupid..and we are going to blow up the entire country. Shhh don't tell anyone or believe any dovish BS. We really are going too.

It's what we do.

 

The Korean War began because the Communist North attacked the South. US troops have been protecting the South from Northern aggression for 64 years and yet Kim thinks an attack on the North is imminent, despite no one attacking them when they were far more weak?

If Kim Jong Un is genuinely this stupid then he is taking up space that could be better filled by someone else.

 

Kim's next move is supposed to be an "atmospheric test" (something banned over half a century ago).

 

One small snag... if China or Russia see this as an imminent threat and launches against the U.S. in response you get to watch everyone you know die in a firestorm followed by a decades long nuclear winter. Your are literally in a room where everyone has a loaded gun pointed at everyone else's head and your speculating that none of the others are as psychotic as you are and won't flinch and pull the trigger ... Really?.

 

Julian Assange said that the US has been provoking N.Korea because they want to put nukes in S. Korea for China's 'benefit'. I differ with him though, I don't think it's for China's benefit, as much as it is for Russia's benefit and her key port on the Pacific; Vladovostok.

Anyway Putin is now meeting with Kim and the Pres. of S. Korea will be attending as well. It's S. Korea that holds the key to the whole mess, since they're the ones that will suffer the most. He was voted in because the people didn't want the Thads deployed in S. Korea, and so the US riled up Kim... and today the Thads are in S. Korea.

 

Nikki Haley is nothing but a warmongering Neocon puppet, just like the very aggressive Samantha Power before her.

 

Good thing you began your post with an "If".

 

Did anyone give a reasonable response why they wouldn't want Thaads in South Korea?

 

Is it good?..The term "if" is thinking you are untouchable playing on an immaculate golf course slamming home that perfect drive and that damn ball just hangs, it just hangs, for an eternity and just about the time it's just about to roll up and literally fall into that the hole. A bolt of lightning running around 20 million volts at about 20,000 amperes you could not possibly have expected strikes your club and conducts to ground stopping your heart and you are effectively dead before you hit that awesome green.

In a unfathomably large universe with trillions of galaxies each containing trillions of stars with each having an untold number of planets in orbit the whole she bang full of an infinite number of "if's" your "if" is the least of my worries my friend.

 

If we're thousands of miles away and a super power and we're complaining about a few nukes, then how do you think the S. Koreans feel about having Thads on their territory, aimed at their brothers and who are all going to die for the US and its ambitions to retain its hegemony.

 

Nikki Haley is following the same text book that Samantha Powers followed. It was probably given to her by our State Department.

 

The only nations that carry an element of respect, are those that are not under Washington's thumb, and I assume Switzerland is one of them.

 

Yes, we are complaining about 'a few nukes' but why would anyone complain about a nuclear defense system?

 

The Swiss will be under the thumb of anyone who deposits valuables in their banks. They are war profiteers, and why anyone would admire them is a mystery.

There are few countries today who carry much respect, and certainly not those with any international significance.. Skeletons are in every closet.