No deal: Pelosi rejects Trump’s offer to legalize 'Dreamers' for wall money

So then we build it, wait seven years, then redo the poll. See if we get above 50% then. Though we might hit that sooner than 5 years.

 

The matter will not be taken up in the House at all.

 

This is not a compromise bill. Trump is already going back on the hints in it. Which is typical Trump.

No one is going to compromise with Trump because Trump can't be trusted. He won't keep his word. He never has, and he isn't going to now.

 

If the dems give him his $5 billion for the wall, politically, he has no choice but to keep his word.

#resisttheresistorswhiletheyarereisistingtheresistance

 

I'd call the wall a metaphor for trump's genitals.
Mr small hands wants a big, erect wall.
What's irresponsible is for trump's turd polishers to want to ladle 10s of billions of dollars to build his phallic symbol.
Get back to us when you come up with a plan to make better use of that money and we can talk.

 

not true with Trump, Trump is not a man of his word, with Trump you need everything in writing and signed

 

What word? All trump does is lie and blow fake smoke. Nobody believes a word he says.
Ask the thousands of contractors he has stiffed over the years.

 

You make joke.

Trump doesn't understand politics, and does not understand integrity. He has no sense of loyalty (except one way loyalty to him).

His promise is worthless, and everyone knows it. No one trusts Trump.

I wonder exactly what "price" Trump would pay in your imagination if he did not keep his word?

Since Trump has a long history of trying to screw his business partners and a very long history of being dragged into court for breaking his agreements and not paying his bills, I wonder when, in your imaginary Trumpian narrative, that the man had an epithany and discovered personal integrity?

 

There are still guys waiting to get paid for the Trump Hotel in DC, two years after completion.

 

Well, you evidently have no experience with large construction projects so your biased opinion is worthless.

 

“I am proud to shut down the government for border security!
I will take the mantle!
I will be the one to shut it down!
I’m not going to blame you for it!”
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Speaker Pelosi is conducting a masterclass in negotiation finesse for Donny.​

You don't acquire this sort of skill at Trump®U!

[Pelosi] plans to pass a package of House bills that would reopen shuttered
government agencies and increase spending on border security
— without a wall.
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I would start (as I've said before) with technologies and increased border staffing. And - as Trump mentioned on Saturday - I've also suggested increased judges to deal with the backlog of asylum cases.

The reality is that illegal immigration is at a low rate at present - which means that what is in place is working. Yes, some will still get through, and the technologies will be an asset in that area.

 

There are almost a million backed up waiting for a court date which can be 3 to 4 years away. The more that come in and get caught the more it ads to the list.

 

I don't believe that the border should be open, or not controlled. At all. Nor do the Dems. You can say it all you want, but it isn't true. Just because 'we' don't believe that 'the wall' is the right answer doesn't mean that 'we' want people to come pouring through.

 

So you will dismiss the Border Patrol and Homeland Security requests based on partisan politics?

 

I have nearly 40 years worth of experience with large construction projects.

It's what I do for a living. I am a construction sales and project manager.

I've seen schmucks like Donald Trump come and go. Trump is only unusual in that he inherited his money, and he stuck around longer than most of the fly by night guys who pull the crap Trump pulls.

I've done a lot of work for people who are worth a lot more than Trump is (he's actually not a very big player), and for people who pay their bills (Trump never has, and Kushner is not much better).

Indeed, I have successfully avoided folks like Trump all my career. I like to get paid.

 

Worst construction project I ever worked on was for the government. Talk about getting screwed.

 

It depends on the agency and the project team.

I have three projects running right now. One for the NPS, and two for the ACoE. Both agencies are a real PITA! The GSA is a snap by comparison!

Doing a hotel job on a property leased from the Federal government is almost certainly a challenge.

But it's even more of one when the tenant is a deadbeat who doesn't manage anything well, and doesn't want to pay for what he agreed to after he made the deal.

 

It would appear that the jury is out on where Border Patrol stands...

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/22/...-wall-immigration-trump-senate-democrats.html
https://www.politico.com/story/2019...012-webpage-opposing-walls-and-fences-1081250
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/10/6838...nals-weigh-in-on-what-s-needede-wall-or-fence

 

Cool you a billionaire too or is Trump smarter than you? You claim he doesn't know politics like you do are you running for President too? Do you realize how ignorant it sounds to claim the a person doesn't know politics but got elected President and that he doesn't know construction yet his companies make billions a year doing construction? To top it off you claim superiority in both because your on a forum posting? We're laughing just not with you.

 

OK then lets just shut the entire government down and never come back since you and your side refuses to negotiate and are left with your phoney simple dismissals.

 

The last article does not support your claim. In fact is supports Trump's current request because he did listen the what the Border Patrol is requesting that the democrats are against. I suggest you listen to the Border Patrol round table with Trump.

 

My claim is that the jury is out - aside from the union, not all border security are in lock step with Trump's plan. They recognize the benefits of the geographical area as a natural barrier in some places. Some are also of the belief that more technology and staffing could work better than a wall. Trump is utilizing supporters as his mouthpieces, but they don't speak for all border security patrollers.

 

Running for office and winning an election does not mean that you know how government works.

Trump is the poster child for that fact.

I don't have to claim that he doesn't understand politics. Anyone who owns a television can see that. His incompetence is a daily topic. Kim Jong Un and Vladimir Putin are laughing at your clown prince. Our allies are avoiding him. He has exactly ONE legislative achievement to point to, and that happened only because Mnuchin and McConnell kept Trump out of the negotiations, lest he screw things up the way he did with the ACA repeal efforts, and his is screwed up by going back on his instructions to his own leadership over the wall.

You seem to be under the false impression that Trump is a successful real estate tycoon, rather than a cartoon character who played one on a cheesy reality tv show.

Trump's name appears on a lot of buildings in Manhattan. He owns very few of them. Generally, the Trump Organization is a propoerty manager, and a branding company.

Trump proclaimed that he had a net worth of $10 billion when he rode the esculator. Nine months later, he filed a financial disclosure that whispered his net worth was $1.8 billion, and it went down to $1.4 billion last year. Actually, no one in commercial real estate beleives any of these numbers. The guess seems to be a few hundred million at best. The general concensus is that the golf resorts lose money (there's a glut in that market now).

Trump never made billions doing construction. Indeed, most of his project made and make little or no money at all. Which is why he steadily frittered away his father's real estate holdings, which he sold off piece by piece to cover his debts and bad deals.

As I said, I've been in the businesss for a long time, and I've seen the likes of Trump.

He's a low class no bill paying lying schmuck.

Marco Rubio was right. Had Trump not inherited his money he would be "selling watches in Manhattan".

 

How do you know that? How do we accurately count how many enter the country illegally and don't get caught? Or could it be because illegal crossings between Tijuana ans San Diego and other places we have installed barriers have cut illegal crossings by upwards of 90%?