One Nation, what a bitches brew party....

You have demonstrated Diuretic's point perfectly, thank you.

 

Is that a concession? I'll take it as offered

 

I work with unemployed people - economic misery is a real thing for them.

 

It's a real thing for people on the basic wage too, especially if they pay rent.

 

Wouldn't it be fair to say it is exactly the other way around? 90% is right, 10% is leftish?
See. if you would be right, J.Assange would be discussed much more, especially after the last 48h, how come it doesn't?
Cats

 

You think the Arts, Media, and Academia is 90% Right?

 

When I hit my thumb with a hammer, I experience misery.

 

We all have become more right, the lefties are diminishing by the day. Everyone of us is so concerned to make another buck.
Greed is the new norm. Showing off our wealth, our new fancy cars, our entertainment homes. The list goes on....
The leftish thought is dead, long dead. You think our media is left?
Think again,
reg.

 

Of course we're concerned with making another buck. What kind of Ivory Tower conditions exist in your world, if you think we can afford not to do that?

And people can do whatever the hell they want with their bucks. Buy fancy cars. Take holidays to the Third World. Live in a converted loft in the middle of an overpriced city while pretending to be a Socialist. None of our biz.

And Leftist thought is alive and well, away from the taint of Progressivism.

PS: the Arts, Media, & Academia are easily 90% Left.

 

Temporarily.

 

Much to a surprise to some of you, most unemployed don't want to be unemployed and most are unemployed due to economic, governmental, social or technological conditions rather than they just don't want to work.

Yes some are abusing the system, some are using it, some are resigned to it and some know no other life.

On the whole though none are responsible for being unemployed.

 

Since I live in an electoral division with Labor way ahead, I will probably protest vote for One Nation.

I disagree with them on a lot of issues, but they are one of the few parties that supports tackling the migrant laundering problem.

Plua they're pro-gun rights anyway.

 

I can support a modest social safety net, but it must be geared toward forcing them back into employment whether they like it or not.

I would reform the system by replacing current programs with a Universal Basic Income, a lump sum payment given to all citizens period. One which does not disappear when you gain employment.

 

Ever thought in migrating to the US?
You can legally buy most weapon, go to schools and mowe everyone down, and the best of all their President will back you.
Some of us really become a concern, why not fight for all the liberties you enjoying?
Vote for the Greens,
Cat

 

Because I think the US goes too far in the opposite direction. I support what the Czechs have: less gun homicides AND mass shootings than us, but shall issue concealed carry, legal semi-auto rifles, a decent gun culture, etc.

I would rather vote for my own hanging than vote for the Greens.

 

Luckily, all of us who live in the rich First World (a world of opportunity and equality) are able to escape poverty. AKA, it's temporary. It only becomes permanent if you're determined.

 

We are lucky, it;s just that to enable the economy about 5% of us have to be unemployed at any given time. For those unfortunate conscripts we should give thanks and bump up their Newstart so they can live almost like those of us who are lucky enough to work for wages.

 

Hmmm,
we once had a Swiss guest, who claimed that he had his army gun stored in his wardrobe. And, according to him, anyone who was part of the Swiss army has his gun at home.
So it appears that obviously some nation can handle the responsibility of carrying guns, while others (like the US with their never ending shootings) can't.
Is it a culrural thing, an educational issue, or are there even different values/ethics involved?
For me, a gun belongs in the hands of defending soldiers, or police personel.
When it comes to the Greens, many people in my beloved country might take a bit longer to understand. Hope that doesn;t sound arrogant, but the future can't be dealt with without the Greens....
Cats

 

I support a 100% nuclear grid with household solar. I have a plan for climate change unlike the liberals who want coal and labour/the Greens who want pie in the sky renewables.

I am a shooter, I am not a cop or a soldier, I am a sport shooter and I aid primary producer in keeping varmint under control.

I definitely agree on some nations being different to others. There's a reason why the Czechs have a lower gun homicide and mass shooting rate than the UK despite having very close to US gun policy.

Ever been to Prague? 270,000 citizens are packing heat in that city.

 

So where do our gun laws as they are restrict you?
What weapons can't you have that you need?
Would you be happy if just anyone could own the weapons you own without a licence or registration or background check?

 

Not at all, Czech law provides for background checks and registration. Indeed, I see this as the issue with the US system.

Czechs have concealed carry, semi-automatic rifles, and a vastly less adversarial relationship between police and gun owners. Yet they have less mass shootings and gun homicides than either us or the UK. Indeed, they have some of the lowest gun violence in the world, despite 240,000 Prague citizens walking around carrying handguns, despite semi-automatic rifles being legally and responsibly owned.

How do you explain the disconnect between US and Czech gun violence, and the fact that Czech gun violence is less than than in nations with highly punitive laws? That the US has a racial problem? Maybe Czechs just magically happen to be good people (public policy shouldn't assume magic as an explanation) Or perhaps reasonable laws - registration and background checks... WORK.

We have legal handguns here, albeit not for carry. Anyone who wants to commit a mass shooting is perfectly able to wait out the 6 month period and get one. Indeed, they would not be restricted in any way over their being able to obtain a semi-automatic rifle - the deadliest US school shooting in history was committed with handguns which are perfectly legal here in Australia. The idea that there are all these mass shooters around who would be killing people if only they could get a less effective weapon - this is stupid.

The reforms I would make are as follows:

1. Reform the police to be less adversarial with gun owners, to work with the community rather than against them.
2. Legalise semi-automatic rifles along the lines of the Czech system - registration and stringent background checks. Treat them like we currently do handguns.
3. Legalise shall issue concealed carry, especially for women (we have the highest rate of rape in the OECD, including Turkey)
4. Legalise carry of mace and tasers, especially for women.
5. Permit hunting in state parks.
6. Abolish appearance laws, base everything on function not whether Greens poo their pants at the sight of the firearm.
7. Heavily reduce the role of our military, and establish something approximating the Swiss system where ordinary citizens are charged with defence of the homeland in case of war.
8. Legalise airsoft. Its prohibition is absolutely absurd.

To answer your last comment - no - I think registration and background checks are essential.

 

Exactly, the capitalist machine wouldn't work without an unemployment level much less than 4%.

It's a bit like the scavenger fuel tank on my car, it provides a ready store of fuel for acceleration and a repository for excess fuel on deceleration.

Now in a perfect world that figure would fluctuate a percentage or two seasonally but remain on average at around 4%.

This 4% is not something we aim for but is purely a result of the system, it's like wastage in manufacturing if you like or like the plus/minus error in a measurement. You can make the wastage smaller or increase the accuracy of measuring but you will never eliminate the wastage or error. What you do is measure the significance of the wastage or error and work with that at an acceptable level.

But that's wastage or error, most of us don't understand the technicalities of the manufacturing process or measuring. We do however understand some young bloke sitting on his butt on the beach while you are working to pay his dole payment. So the pollies play it up to get your vote .

 

Why do they need to?

 

What rot...4% unemployment... did you derive that figure because the ALP/Greens coalition is unable to get it below that??? After all Howard did...


But this brings an interesting point... Since unemployment is 5%, WHY on earth is Australia still importing workers??? Some would like to suggest it is because Australian's don't want to work.

It is about time people start to realise Welfare is not a right to live in a lifestyle of the hard worker or the rich and famous... It is supposed to be a safety net so people don't starve in the streets.

People often want to justify their opinions by measure of their own position while refusing to accept or understand that others are not in the same position or even ability they stand themselves. I have just had a troll try vilify me for demanding we stop forcing the poor to pay for their ideal of how the world should run because of the simple fact they cannot comprehend what opportunity is.

People demand that home ownership is a rite of passage and is being lost in nations interest while the fact is it has never been higher in Australia… Perhaps they could qualify their opinion of beach front home ownership is out of reach of many in Australia. But no, governments should give everybody the right to live in beach front properties… Makes me wonder how high the buildings will be to house 25m people in beach front properties.

Newstart might need to be increased, I don’t deny such, mind you I don’t know how much it is and who qualifies. But the mentality that it should closely resemble the working wages is simply wrong. it is not about living in a lifestyle, but keeping one alive till they can get a job to earn their lifestyle, whatever they choose that life style to be. Which I hate to say, is often not what meets the ideals of those who pretend to be emphatic people…

Talk of living wages, wage increases and all those other workers benefits are meaningless while you’re importing workers to fill positions that can be filled by a 5% employment rate. Wages only increase above CPI (which is the complaint) when the need for workers outstrip the ability to fill the positions. So until these politicians stop allowing importation of workforce people should stop complaining about it. The coalition are continuing with such policy as both long term and seasonal work visas and the ALP show they wish continue. One thing is for sure, this entire subject, the Greens open boarder plain would destroy the workers and the economy…

 

Suffering 5 decades under a brutal communist dictatorship tends to make you more supportive of gun rights.