Oregon's drug decriminalization effort a 'tragedy'

https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-drug-decriminalization-effort-tragedy

I am opposed to these laws and I believe they hurt the economy as well. Even marijuana prevents people from getting good jobs. Drugs turn people into trash and few ever make it out. I know this is a big libertarian push that liberals have grabbed and ran with but it’s horrible idea.

I have a six figure job and we are begging for hands right now. In the states that have legalized marijuana use we can’t get hardly anyone due to flunking the UA or the hair follicle. I am seeing first hand at what it’s doing to the work force.

passing these laws are moronic and I know people site some far off country that happens to be intelligent enough to stay away from drugs even if it is legal. This is America, we are not those countries. Our drug issues have always been bad. Legalizing them is stupid. Our culture is different and we will pay the price for this idiocy.

 

Marijuana never kept me from getting good jobs.

 

Try getting on at my job

 

Everyone I know that are hardcore marijuana users are lazy and worthless. The occasional users sometimes aren’t bad. The the hardcore pot users are lazy and have social issues.

 

We need a national policy to start fixing the damage the Drug War caused, and is still causing.

Besides that, Oregon is one of the very worst, for drug abuse, in the country. That was true before, and it's true now. Your article talks about appearances, it doesn't have the stats we need. Sure, deaths are up, but Covid is part of that. All sorts of problems are worse because of it.

Typical Fox; you're supposed to take the trash out, not in...

 

Why, I can create own employment why should I work for someone else? I was self employed for forty years making three times the national average, sometimes four. My Papa always told me; You can work for someone else and make them money, or you can work for yourself and make yourself money. I had several trades and technical expertise but hate, hate working for corporations. My company had no discrimination against felons or drug users and I did just fine motivating the workers to be productive.

 

Now you have met one who isn't. I am getting high and going to work in the garden. I have been gettin' high since 1977 so stuff it if you need to lie about people just because you don't use

 

i have 25 yrs as an active addict and 23 yrs being sober and working with addicts in recovery...my addiction was all Rx drugs...a simple return to more relaxed restrictions of doctors prescribing pure drugs is all thats needed...clean and pure drugs regulated in an reasonable way would allow a return to the much vaunted MAGA rules of the 1950s

as long as drug cartels control drugs all we have is a rehash of the booze prohibtion of 100 years ago with the same violence and death from junk filthy drugs
the public has been fed crap about drug monsters for the same 100 years...

in my work with recovery i find much effort in de-stigmatization as it is the sons and daughters of so-called "decent " people that these dirty drugs kill

 

Stop trying to control people it's authoritarian.
It's their body, their problem. Freedom does not always paint a rosy picture, but it's better than a fake authoritarian utopia of someone once else's vision.

 

Your anecdotal experiences are irrelevent when it comes to the rights of body autonomy.

 

Oregon ranks second-highest among U.S. states for substance abuse with nearly one in five adults addicted. Keeping Oregon weird....

Yeah, Measure #110 was a smashing success.

Overdoses went through the roof after Oregon voted to decriminalize all drugs (bizpacreview.com)

 

as long as drugs remain in the control of cartels and such they will be adulterated with garbage, no surprises here

 

The point is Measure #110 was supposed to be he fix all.
It's only gotten worse.

 

If there are so many drugs why can't I find any blotter acid?

 

Know what doesn't work...throwing people in jail, keeping them from work, or getting a license and all the other measures put in place during the war on drugs.

At least this way the tax payers are not footing the bill with useless jail stays for people who don't appreciate their own bodies. It's their body they can do what they want with it.

 

No it wasn't, it was meant to return people the right to their own bodies.

If it's gotten worse, that's a Parental issue.

 

Measure 110, a leftist social experiment, is a dismal failure. The taxpayers via 110 have offered to foot the bill for treatments but the druggies are not taking the bait. They get ticketed with a misdemeanor and continue on with their crime spree to get money to feed their addictions. Society suffers. Deaths are at an all time high, up 41% since the passage of 110, 1069 deaths. Only 136 have sought treatment.
ENABLING the addicted is a failure.

 

I'm cool with that - their body, their choice, all that stuff - however - along with the freedom of choice to do drugs comes the personal responsibility to accept the consequences of drug usage. Taxpayers shouldn't be on the hook for paying for rehab, medical care, lack of ability to support themselves, etc. You do the drug, you alone suffer the consequences. The bad decisions of an individual should not automatically place a burden on others who were not involved in the bad decision.

 

The problem I see is that you assume all the drug addicted are under age 18.

 

Exactly! Society, AKA the taxpayers shouldn't be ENABLING....

 

I'm not really convinced of anything by what you posted, but I'm sure glad they are spending their prison space on real criminals instead of people whose lifestyle you consider distasteful. If they commit a property crime, then put them behind bars FOR THAT and try to mandate treatment if that's the cause. Leave any who don't alone.

 

People who steal in order to feed their addictions are tasteful to you?
Did you read the article yet? Decriminalizing addiction caused the rate of addiction to acutally rise 700% in a year's time, (in some areas of OR), since Measure 110 went into effect.

 

Did they compare it to a matched area which had a different policy? No. Other things happened during that time too, like covid.

Substance Use Has Risen During COVID-19 Pandemic (senate.gov)

Furthermore, any issue could be with the details of the law rather than decriminalization in general. Not putting people in prison for mere drug possession is a very good thing.

 

Lot of companies do require clean drug test.

 

There are several ways to beat the test.