PA Court Rules 2020 Election Likely Unconstitutional

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  1. Yulee

    Yulee Well-Known Member

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    Funny part is if they don’t certify by November 30 there is no Pennsylvania state legislature in the house and only half of the state Senate.
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe that is the court's response to this filing:
    https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-...lly-v.-Commonwealth-Complaint-620MD20-PFR.pdf

    Essentially, PA's state constitution requires that any constitutional amendment (in this case to change voting laws) be passed by legislative vote in two separate sessions, then be published as a public notice, then voted on by citizens to ratify any changes.

    Act 77, to expand absentee voting to a "no excuse necessary" vote-by-mail, passed one session. It had not passed a 2nd session, no public notice was given, and citizens did not vote for the change.

    Therefore, the legitimate voting laws require that absentee voters have one of four legitimate reasons they cannot vote in person in order to qualify to vote by mail.

    Governor Wolf and the Sec. of State Boockvar went forward with no excuse mail-in voting before the voting laws were officially changed. All those mail-in ballots are therefore not qualified votes under the current PA constitution.

    Relief sought is to either 1) not count unqualified mail-in ballots (which could be over a million of votes) or to have the legislature appoint electors as they see fit.

    Essentially, Gov. Wolf ran a constitutionally illegal election. He ought to resign.



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  3. camp_steveo

    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    The argument is not without precedent in PA.
     
  4. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If the judge goes by the rule of law, they have to void the non-qualified mail-in ballots. If they go by mob rules, then the votes will stand.

    Citizens should bring a class-action lawsuit against Gov Wolf and the Sec. of State. They are the ones who created this illegal mess.
     
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    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Meaningless. Biden is still gonna be POTUS come January. Do you agree?
     
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  6. Yulee

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    There’s an election to remedy your concerns on Wolf.
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The mayor of Houston, TX almost created a similar fiasco. At some point shortly before the election he said he was going to mail out ballots to all registered voters in Harris County. Our governor stopped him because Texas state laws also require an excuse to vote absentee. We would have had millions of illegal votes just from Houston if that hadn't been stopped before it happened.
     
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    No. I don't know who is going to be president. Neither do you. You only hope.
     
  9. Independent4ever

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    Then they should have brought this suit months ago prior to the election. I think there was a deadline to do that which long since passed
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wolf's term of office doesn't end until January 2023. He should be recalled or impeached...or whatever legal remedy there is to get him out. This is a travesty he committed against the citizenry of PA.
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The current law is the current law, and it only allows mail-in voting for a limited number of excuses. It matters not if the suits are being filed after the election. The law does not change.
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    I disagree. Biden is President elect. No matter how loud and long Trump and his clan yell to the sky fraaaaauuuddd, none of that changes the facts that Biden will be sworn in come January.
     
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    The PA legislature has entered a resolution for the AG to decertify and return the constitutional power of certification to the legislature.
     
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    Biden is not president elect until the electors vote. Simple legal fact.
     
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    Great. What will be your new excuse after Biden gets sworn in?
     
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    Goal post moved!
     
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    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    It's the simple fact though. Or are you under the same misguided assumption that Trump will remain POTUS?
     
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    I have 100% certainty that Joe Biden is going to be inaugurated 1/20/2021.


    Not going to happen so why waste your breath.
     
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    Why isn't this site moving these conspiracy threads into the proper area !!!!!

    For anyone giving this or even wasting their time reading it !!!!
     
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    LogNDog Well-Known Member

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    Says the guy that uses osmosis rather than reading.
     
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    Good for you. If he does I will celebrate with "#resist" and "#impeach" since all it takes now to impeach a president is a majority in the House which we will probably get because the incumbent almost always (except for 1982 and 2020) loses seats. It will be fun.
     
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    So factual reporting is now conspiracy?
     
  24. Yulee

    Yulee Well-Known Member

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    Whoopity doo. You will never see 2/3rds of the senate to convict. Have at it.
     
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  25. camp_steveo

    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    Its a court ruling, not a conspiracy theory. If you are a md, then why is that so hard to distinguish?
     

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