Putin brags Russia's new hypersonic missiles 'can wipe out US cities' sparking WW3 fears

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  1. Dayton3

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    Because the Russians were their brothers (basically) while the Nazis were an alien invader.
     
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    We're pushing it. Not just in Taiwan but in Ukraine too. We're arming them and training them, and as someone said, every Russian school boy knows that if the first chapter in a book says there's a rifle on the wall, then by the end it will go off.

    The latest in Washington is that if Ukraine was to fight and defeat Russia, then the people would kick out Vladimir Putin and Russia would split with China. We're also doing now the same to China as we did to Russia, insulting and provoking them no end, without taking into account the mentality and cultures of the people we're dealing with.


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    But the revolution in Russia was a foreign ideology and takeover of the country, and what that ideology did to the Russian people was worse than what was done to the Ukrainians or anyone else for that matter.

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    Yes. We have relocated LOTS of the troops we had in Germany into Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Hungary, Romania, Poland, Ukraine and more. We gave Javelins to Ukraine early in the game. They are a serious game changer. Now there is a plan to send them M1 tanks. I spent half my Army career in Germany. I'm kind of jealous of the young folks getting to explore Eastern Europe on their assignments. Must be fun.
     
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    Let's see how it ends up in Ukraine. It's no fun for the people in Donbas who see their homes in flames because of the confidence Biden has given them - once again. He made a habit of it when he was VP.

    Anyway I don't see what good those arms will do them if there's a war and the gas is cut off. It's pretty cold in them their lands. Poland is now begging Gazprom for a new contract because it can't afford the prices on the old one.

    Putin should tell Poland that if they want a cheaper price, then how about a deal to split up Ukraine. You can take back Lviv, Galatia and everything that belongs to you, and I'll take back Kharkov, Odessa and the coastline that belongs to me. Hungary can take back what belongs to them and also Belarus and Romania. And just to show we're kind hearted, we'll let them keep Kiev.


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    Don’t get me wrong though. If this were to happen I truly think we would win. Most of the world would be on our side. Most middle eastern countries wouldn’t want a russia without an American check. I also believe many but not all Asian countries would be on our corner. Europe would definitely be on our side. Not sure about South America or African countries though.
     
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    They hardly matter anyway.
     
  8. Jeannette

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    You're being optimistic. The world hates us for bullying them into submission. All we have is the Anglosphere. It's called the 5 eyes.




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    while basking in hypocrisy
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    They as far as getting enemies on our continent
     
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    People may hate us but they like their sovereignty more than supporting Russia. They have a very large history of invasion. Deeper than ours. We may invade but we haven’t attacked to seek land in a long time.
     
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    South American nations are not "on our continent".
     
  12. Dayton3

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    How is the world "in submission" to the United States?

    If they are then it is something they wanted. Not that we forced.
     
  13. Jeannette

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    Actually Russia has never invaded the West while the West has invaded Russia in one way or another every 20 years. The Russians themselves always headed eastwards. So saying that the Russians are aggressive is purely projection - or Western propaganda.

    Poland for instance, always dreamt of rebuilding its former Polish Lithuania Empire, and Germany always wanted land for its growing population. That's what WWII was about. The Nazi intent was to ethnically cleanse the Russians in Ukraine and Russia and push them to the Urals. This way they could grab the rich black earth to feed their growing population and also grab their oil wells for their industries .

    Right now if Kiev touches the Russian people in the Donbas who happen to have Russian citizenship, there will be a war and Russia will roll up to the Nato borders. In Kiev the people will greet them with flowers, the same as they did in Crimea for having saved them from a government under the control of Nazi militants.

    It's a pity that Ukraine which was once the richest province of the USSR is now the poorest nation in Europe.
     
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    Are you saying that sanctioning nations, and punishing the nations that try to break our sanctions and trade with them is not bullying nations into submission? As an example, we are stealing Syria's oil, we stole their sheep and burned their grain and are sanctioning medicine and other necessities as well as attacking Iran's tankers when they tried to deliver oil.

    Thank God that Russia protects the tankers, and sends them grain otherwise they would all die - and the world knows it. People are not stupid.

    So why are we doing it and why the mafia tactics? Because the Syrian people want Assad for president and we don't.


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    So if you object
    to what I have done
    in taking your rights away?

    I couldn't care less
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    for with sanctions and guns


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    Of course not. Would you prefer we simply used military force?
     
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    The world hates us? Is that why tens of thousands of folks are risking life and limb to come here? Really?
     
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    Maybe you read about the hunger because of the drought in 1946-1947. At that time Khruschev head Ukraine and moved all grain from.
    It sounds strange, but possible that time the grain was in Ukraine. There is a fact that during Holodomor number of mills growed in several times (in 10 times, as I remember). Imaging a situation: grain is absent but number of mill grows. Where they get the grain? The reason of Holodomor is special features of Ukrainian people and American propaganda. Stalin was concerned by situation in Ukraine according his letter to Kosior (head of Ukraine that time). After investigation Kosior was shot, and believe me, a reason for that was serious one.
    You will be surprised, but 1/6 of their population was killed by ...Ukrainians. Of course, they served to Germanians. But...Most of crimes were done by Ukrainians punishers. Some their children are presented on this forum.
     
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    People all over the world just dream of dying for the United States.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/05/us-threat-democracy-russia-china-global-poll
     
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    How about learning to live with the world instead of trying to force everyone into submission? We complain about the migrants wanting to come into our country, well what if we were to help them build up their economy so they wouldn't want to come here?

    The solution is simple, it was used by Germany after WWII. Build a wall and give 2 or 3 year visas to anyone who wants to work here. Let them send their money back to their home country to support their families and build up its economy, and once their economy can sustain them, they won't want to come here.

    Anyway this is one solution that was used successfully in Europe after WWII. It stopped working with the Muslims though, because they have an agenda.
     
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    I'm wondering, do you understand what you are writing?
    1. Jesus did not disdain to steal. Moreover, he did this more than once.
    2. Jesus did nothing useful. You write that after Jesus people stopped kicking into the fire as a sacrifice? But under the name of Jesus, people began to burn at the stake. And all the branches of Christians, including the Orthodox, did it.
    How many wars were there under the name of Jesus? Think of the crusades and wars between people over church priests-swindlers under the guise of fighting the infidels. By the way, the worshipers of Christ in the ovens of Auschwitz burned people much more than in Ancient Rome.
    Your Jesus has done nothing. The same thief and crook as his followers.
    And I understand that you do not have a single example of what Jesus did useful for society.
    3. The Russian Empire before the revolution was in an economic hole. Under the tsar, people in Russia were dying of hunger in the literal sense. The revolution of 1905 took place because there were no products in the CAPITAL of the Russian Empire. You read - in the Russian Empire almost every year there was a famine. Moreover, on such a scale that it was rare to find anywhere else.
    Withdrawal of food from peasants was organized on the direct orders of the tsar. Once again - by direct order of the king.
    They seized food from the peasants with the help of the army and cannons.
    Therefore, you do not tell tales about the "growing economy of the Russian Empire", but better study the issue.
    4. About the Bolsheviks. The growth of the USSR's GDP in the 1930s was the highest in the world. No country in the world has experienced such economic growth either before or since. The growth of the USSR GDP reached 36% per year. GDP growth in post-war Japan is a maximum of 15.3%, China's GDP growth is a maximum of 14.8%.
    Comparing the achievements of a tsar with the achievement of, for example, Comrade Stalin is like comparing a flea to an elephant.
     
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    I see the Soviet Union indoctrinated you well.
     
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    Thank you for that bit of information. Stalin is being demonized for some reason or another. I didn't think he was really to blame for what happened in Ukraine. As for the Holodymir, I always felt it was propaganda. I mean why would the 'Banderites' who were killing the same people during the war, and have been persecuting them since the coup, care so much about what happened to them in the 30's?

    I'm not surprised, I know everything that has been going on in Ukraine and that even the government in Kiev is fearful of the 'Nazis' Banderites of Western Ukraine. That's why everything in Ukraine is at a standstill. The US is now pushing for a war, which means Russia will have no choice but to go into Ukraine and split the country up so they can have some peace.
     
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    The Berlin Wall was built by the Soviets to keep East Germans captive inside the "Socialist Workers Paradise" that the Soviets had created.

    So many were leaving East Germany that it was headed toward being a failed state which would've been a crushing humiliation to the Soviets.
     
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    When I said the policy was used successfully by the Germans, I wasn't thinking of East Germany. I meant that with our Marshall Plan, the Germans were bringing in laborers from Southern Europe to help rebuild their country. The laborers were given 2 year visas, and then had to return to their own country. This way the money they sent back helped rebuild the southern European countries after the war.

    What happened is that when the laborers from southern Europe stopped going to Germany, they started bringing laborers in from Turkey. I don't think that Muslim nations with the exception of Syria which is secular, allows the Muslims to return home. Also the business managers were tired of training people every two years so Germany changed its laws.

    When I said to build a wall, I meant that unless there is a wall or we have guards ready to enforce the law along our border, our government can't keep track of who is entering our country - so how can migrants be given visas?

    I know that Russia keeps the migrants at bay and it's probably because they're given visas and can work there legally. I know a few years back, they had to enlarge the facility that handles the laborers in Moscow because they were giving out 5 thousand visas a day.
     
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    do you need videos to show how terribly wrong you are? ...
     

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