Putin says Russians will 'go to Heaven as martyrs' in the event of a nuclear war as he would only us

This is a silly statement. Women are not built to work physically in work like men are. That isn't a fault, its not a choice. But they are usually just as valuable to society than men are, they can, in a team environment, move mountains alongside men. To be arrogant about men over women is foolish.
As for same sex marriage, you can believe what you like. That is your right. But, to criticize love no matter the gender is to miss the meaning of love. Likely you cannot fully and truly love someone at all to believe this. Love is love, it's precious and infinitely valuable.

But, that's another topic and one that I choose not to further attempt to educate someone that has eyes but cannot see.

 

Yes. Many aborigines died of measles, which they contracted because they were specifically given blankets infected with this and other diseases. Also, later in 1949, Americans deliberately infected Guatemalans with syphilis.

 

In this case, what kind of equality can you say?

 

He's lying. He's Russian and he doesn't have no grandson. He's just a low IQ poster with little vision and no knowledge about what he generally posts about. Don't ask why, it's a troll thing that Kremlin thinks a big deal.

 

My only point is that your earlier claim that: "Germany was the cause of two world wars." is part of an over simplistic & fraudulent Allied narrative that blames Germany, alone, for all the ills of the first half of the 1900s when there is ample blame to go around.

I lived, studied and worked in Germany in the mid 1970s & have known & spoken in great detail with hundreds of WW2 survivors of varied nationalities & backgrounds. Not one of them, including Russians trying to escape Stalin's cruelty, related anything except horror at the behavior of the horde of predatory Russian rapists who came from the east.(1)

I can't think of a single German WW2 veteran whom I met who was taken prisoner (i.e. POWs) by the Russians related anything except barbaric treatment by their Russian captors if they spoke about their torturous experiences in gulags at all.

One Russian woman, a "White Russian" who was alternately in the hands of most all the major participants stated that her German captors were kinder to her than any of her multiple captors from Allied & Axis armies.
I also do not recall any evidence of Stalin's concern for the future of Germany or the German people in general but would be glad to review any supporting material you have.



"Rape Of Germany After It Lost In 1945"
https://historyimages.blogspot.com/2012/01/1945-after-it-lost-germany-raped.html

EXCERPT "In a report that appeared in August 1945 in the Washington DC Times-Herald, an American journalist wrote of what he described as“the state of terror in which women in Russian-occupied eastern Germany were living. All these women, Germans, Polish, Jewish and even Russian girls `freed’ from Nazi slave camps, were dominated by one desperate desire -- to escape from the Red zone “

“In the district around our internment camp … Red soldiers during the first weeks of their occupation raped every women and girl between the ages of 12 and 60. That sounds exaggerated, but it is the simple truth. The only exceptions were girls who managed to remain in hiding in the woods or who had the presence of mind to feign illness - typhoid, dyptheria or some other infectious disease … Husbands and fathers who attempted to protect their women folk were shot down, and girls offering extreme resistance were murdered.”

We are ceaselessly reminded of the Third Reich’s wartime concentration camps. But few Americans are aware that such infamous camps as Dachau, Buchenwald, Sachsenhausen and Auschwitz were kept in operation after the end of the war, only now packed with German captives, many of whom perished miserably."CONTINUED

 

I think you either misread my Post or are confusing it with another person's Post as I have neither attempted to justify either fascism or massacres carried out by anyone.
Additionally, I said nothing about Hitler's copying the British concept of concentration camps used on the Boers & elsewhere throughout the brutal British Empire in which millions quietly perished under cruel & exploitative British rule

Before attributing all Axis war crimes to "the Germans", it is important to remember that about 2 million non Germans / non Aryans served in Germany's WW2 military including 150,000 Jews.(1) Some of these non German units wearing the German uniform carried out atrocities so heinous that they were disbanded, punished & sometimes executed by higher ranking German officers.

You seem to have very strong feelings against "traitor" historian Victor Suvorov & his assertion that Stalin was preparing to attack Europe from the East however Suvorov claims are supported by Vladimir Rezun, a former officer of the Soviet military intelligence(2) and the fact that the Soviet forces were Offensive, not Defensive positions.

It is commonly known that Stalin sought to erase the effects of the 1918 Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, imposed on defeated, revolution-torn Russia by the German-led Central Powers but not so commonly known that the USSR & the UK invaded & occupied Iran on 24 August 1941(3).

I do not believe that Stalin's 1930s bloody purge of military officers, enormous military build up, Offensive military positioning, & invasion of Iran indicated anything other than continued expansionism & conquest.




(1) "Adolf Hitler’s Armed Forces: A Triumph for Diversity?"
https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/1/3/3102

EXCERPTS " I ask those historians who still believe that Hitler and the Nazis were “white supremacists”: how do you account for the incredible degree of non-German and ethnic minority (i.e., 150,000 Jews and Jewish Mischlinge) collaboration during World War II? Again, some two million non-Germans helped the Nazis.

The important thing to realize is that had the Nazis been as racist as most historians have argued, then they could not possibly have garnered the immeasurable level of support that they did. Even after Stalingrad; Spaniards, Slavs, Franks, and tens of- thousands of other non-Germans continued to fight for the Nazis on a volunteer basis. Frenchmen and Arab volunteers gave their lives in the final fight for the capital of Berlin in 1945. Hitler continued to allow thousands of Jewish men to serve, and many did so with incredible tenacity and valor."CONTINUED


(2) "Soviet offensive plans controversy"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_offensive_plans_controversy

EXCERPTS "The Soviet offensive plans controversy refers to the debate among historians and authors on the question of whether Soviet leader Joseph Stalin was planning to attack Axis forces in Eastern Europe prior to Operation Barbarossa.

Authors, such as historian Viktor Suvorov, argue that Stalin's plan was to attack Hitler in the rear while Germany fought the Allies.

He argued that Soviet ground-forces were extremely well organized, and were mobilizing en masse along the German-Soviet frontier for a Soviet invasion of Europe slated for Sunday, July 6, 1941, but they were totally unprepared for defensive operations on their own territory.

Either way, most historians agree that war between the Soviet Union and the Axis was inevitable due to their vast ideological differences.

In the 1980s Vladimir Rezun, a former officer of the Soviet military intelligence and a defector to the UK, reiterated and explored this claim in his 1987 book Icebreaker: Who Started the Second World War (written using the pseudonym Viktor Suvorov),[4] and in several subsequent books. He argued that Soviet ground-forces were extremely well organized, and were mobilizing en masse along the German-Soviet frontier for a Soviet invasion of Europe slated for Sunday, July 6, 1941, but they were totally unprepared for defensive operations on their own territory."CONTINUED


(3) "Time to Face the Truth About World War II"
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-margolis/time-to-face-the-truth-ab_b_282379.html

 

Kreo is just another low IQ poster. Ignore.

 

I know of it being done only once by the British during the French and Indian war. Britain was at war with France and the Indians sided with them. Throwing diseased bodies into enemy camps goes way back though. I know the Mongols were throwing diseased bodies into the Genovese camp in Crimea, and that's how the Black Plague entered Europe and killed off 1/3 of the population.

As for the measles, it's a highly contagious disease. Homes used to be quarantined at one time. The colonists noticed that only the Indians that were half European were able to survive. What some unscrupulous Americans in the West did do though, was sell alcohol to the Indians and they would go wild. It had something to do with their genes.

Oh I forgot, I'm supposed to hate him.

This says nothing about Vladimir Putin, and everything about you and how you think. Doesn't look well for you now does it?

Ah ha, so you found something from 2013? By the way how can someone be a Russian citizen from Dagestan and be an illegal at the same time? Anyway there are no illegals in Russia, there are Russian citizens and migrant workers from that Central Asian states, and they are being processed by the tens of thousands in Moscow. By the way the Caucasus is protected by Kadyrov and that includes Dagestan. Putin wants to make sure the US doesn't send in more terrorists to restart the wars.

As for the Nazis in Russia, well they all left and joined those in Ukraine where they are being supported by the American installed Kiev government.

And here's the mosque that Putin built. It's the largest I believe in Europe. Actually he didn't build it, it's just a figure of speech. I know you're a stickler for such things. Putin was the one though who figured out how all the Muslims could be accommodated, without taking parkland away from the people of Moscow. '

 

We're back to where we were 100 years ago - powerful nations full of angry, restless idiots being led by walking, talking (and tweeting) penises. If it weren't for nukes, we'd probably already be back to raging global warfare by now.

 

For what the Germans did in Russia, the Russians could exterminate all the Germans to one. And they would be right. You let snot on sadists from the SS? Maybe you tell about the experiments of Dr. Mengele? Or can we talk about Buchenwald, Dachau or Salaxpils?
Of all my relatives, only one grandmother survived the war. The rest of my relatives were killed. I thank God that my relatives died as heroes. And their names have city streets and other objects in Russia, are named after them.
Your false stories about rape in Germany should cause a tears of emotion? Personally, I do not feel any pity for the Nazis. I spit on all fascists. And if all the fascists die, I will only applaud.
I am proud that my relatives, dying, have destroyed many fascists. My grandmother of the partisans, when the Nazis tortured her cruelly, and then they wanted to throw her alive into the mine hole, managed to grab a German officer and jump with him into the mine hole.
I hope in the new war, I can also fight with the aggressor and before I die, destroy them a lot.

 

Not at all. He is just another employee of the Internet Research Agency.

 

You write some kind of nonsense. Actually, what you wrote is nonsense. You bring in proof of your nonsense, or fantastic literature, or Wikipedia. Go and read the original sources.

 

What are the street names and in which cities?
Never mind, all you spew here are lies anyway.

 

I spit on your opinion.

 

Learn English. Nut up or shut up.

 

I think the absolute majority of regular posters in this section do the same on yours and post in your threads just for self entertainment.

 

How many accounts do you know of it?

 

And we all shitt on yours...

 

There are supremacists everywhere. I know that the Russian Nazis left for Ukraine and joined the ones there. I also know that the ones from Galicia in Ukraine, and who followed Bandera committed crimes towards the Poles and Jews equal and even worse than the Japanese in Nanking - which makes one wonder if they were on drugs. The same could be said for the Croatians under the Ustashe regime and their massive genocide against Serbs and Jews.

The same could be said for the Soviets. It's funny how the same non Russians who brag about how they were the ones and not the Russians who entered Berlin, propagate at the same time that the Russians raped women in Berlin - not them of course.

I don't doubt that Stalin might have invaded had Hitler not done so first. Hitler though wanted the Russian lands for the German people so it was a war of extermination. With Stalin, it would have been to push the Soviet international political system. The Germans and western Europeans would have been a productive asset to it - not to mention the US as well. Let's not forget the communist party was very strong in most of these countries, so it wouldn't have been just an outside invasion, but an internal revolution as well.

It can't be considered expansion, since the Soviet Union was not an Empire or a national state. It was an international political system similar to the one world order that is being forwarded today by Soros and others - and just as evil.

Most non Germans who joined the Nazi army were either supremacists, or saw it as the only way to defeat communism since it was an atheist system and persecuted Christianity. You can't say though that the Nazi system wasn't racist, something which was always part an parcel of Western European civilization, but never to the same extent.

As for the Jews, I like to watch Israelinewslive, not that I agree with his views on things, but he is informative about Syria. He's a Messianic Jew and lost 200 in the holocaust. What he said was that the Jewish Zionists paid thousands to the Germans for the lives of the Jewish elite so they could establish the state of Israel, yet could care less for the Orthodox Jews, when their lives could have been saved for about $1.50 a person.

 

I put most of Russian trolls on ignore, even those who seem to have pretty good English, so I can’t really tell.
I left this one out of the list because this one amuses me once in a while.

 

He never criticizes Russian government and always gives one-sided argument. There is really nothing really valuable in these people’s opinions. Their perspective is always predictable because they either push Russian version of events, attempt to spread divisions among westerners or resort to insults and racism/homophobia/sexism.
I read this ones threads because it amuses me how he can take an article from a western source and then twist it to fit his narrative, even though in many cases his articles refute his own points. I also get a kick out of reading from this Russian troll his concerns about American economy and stock market even though his own country and society is doing 1000% worse. It’s like someone who lives in a slum is concerned about bus schedule in the richest neighborhood in town.