Religious and Moral Implications of Artificial Intelligence.

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  1. AboveAlpha

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    Fear is Bio-Chemical.

    It keeps us alive.

    AA

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    No....that's the beginning of ignorance.

    No actual GOD would want to instill fear.

    This is a Man Made concept.

    AA
     
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    God is glory, love, spirit. His glory and love are main energy sources, main ingredients that created all along with His spirit.
    Remember, Only True Creator would die for His own creations. Because He made, He treasures. Like parents sacrifice for their own children. Like a good king would sacrifice for his own kingdom, like a successiveful businessman sacrifice for his own self-built business.
     
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    As I said....define GOD.

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    OH....and a GOD would not have Gender.

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    you just said fear is a good thing to you......

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    No. For when we resurrect into the heavenly kingdom, we are like angels, we don't get marry.
     
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    Fear is a good thing for the protection of injury.

    But a supposedly all powerful GOD would not need worship, glory nor fear.

    Nor would it need to install fear in others.

    An example of some bad logic in the Bible.....

    GOD supposedly ask's Abraham to kill his son.

    The story go's Abraham obeys and GOD stops the slaughter.

    Logic dictates any GOD of moral ideology specific to humanity SHOULD have been angry with Abraham for attempting to murder his son and HAPPY with Abraham for refusing to do so.

    GOD.....if existing.....is NOTHING like what religious text thinks it is.

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    Very presumptuous aren't you?

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    Abraham had the faith that he knew God would resurrect his son. The truth is that human doesn't die! No such thing as sleepness state when we die. Our spirit will live on after leave our dead body, and there is only two places for our spirits.

    I love you said, fear keeps me alive. let me poner that, i may borrow it too.

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    It's in the Bible. that we will be like angels, we don't get marry.
     
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    Fear keeps us all alive....so does pain.

    There is a certain LOGIC to the Universe and Multiverse.

    It does not discount the possibility of a GOD but it does discount the possibility of a GOD existing as advertised in all ancient human religious text.

    Things are much more complex than that.

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    May be just as simple as to keep His creations in line and learn not to hurt ourselves and our fellows.
    It's not hard to understand if we stand in the perspective of a loving king or ruler with a massive beautiful kingdom.
    that He built.
     
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    This is a Human Perspective.

    Our perception is not that great.

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    We are made out of His image, we can understand His perception
     
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    HIS IMAGE!!?? LOL!!

    And a GOD would need a body....why?

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    He'd taken back what Adam had lost for human. Human's original authority. Let me borrow this article from Dennis's thread, very interesting"

    "I am Adam,” he said. “I was given authority over the earth, but I gave it to the evil one by obeying evil. He now rules in my place and your place. The earth was given to man, but the evil one has taken it. The authority I lost was restored by the cross. Jesus Christ is ‘the last Adam,’ and He will soon take His authority and rule. He will rule through mankind because He gave the earth to mankind. Those who live in your times will prepare the earth for Him to rule.”
    “Please tell me more,” I asked, a little surprised to see Adam, but wanting to hear everything he had to say. “How do we prepare for Him?”

    “Love,” he said. “You must love one another. You must love the earth, and you must love life. My sin released the death that now flows as rivers upon the earth. Your love will release rivers of life. When evil reigns, death is stronger than life, and death prevails over life. When righteousness reigns, life prevails, and life is stronger than death. Soon the life of the Son of God will swallow up the death that was released through my disobedience. It is not just living that you must love, but life. Death is your enemy. You are called to be a messenger of life.

    “When the Lord’s people begin to love, He will use them to release His judgments. His judgments are to be desired. The whole world is groaning and travailing as it waits for His judgments, and when they come, the world will learn righteousness. What He is about to do, He will do through His people, and His people will stand as Elijah in the last days. Their words will shut up the heavens or bring rain; they will prophesy earthquakes and famines, and they will come to pass; they will stop famines and earthquakes.

    “When they release armies in the heavens, armies will march on the earth. When they hold back armies, there will be peace. They will decide where He shows mercy and where He shows His wrath. They will have this authority because they will love, and those who love will be one with Him. What you will see through that door is to help prepare you for what He is about to do through His people.

    “I know authority. I also know the responsibility of authority. Because of the great authority that I was given, I am responsible for what has happened to the earth. Even so, the grace of God began to cover me, and God’s great redemption will soon swallow up my mistake. Peace will be taken from the earth, but you are called to help restore it. Peace prevails in heaven, and you are called to bring heaven to earth. Those who abide in His presence will know peace and will spread peace.

    “The earth itself will shake and tremble. Times of trouble greater than have ever been known will begin to move across the earth like great waves of the sea. Even so, those who know Him will not be troubled. They will stand before the raging of the seas and say, ‘Peace, be still’ and the seas will be calm. Even the least of His little ones will be like a great fortress of peace that will stand through all that is coming. His glory will be revealed to His people first and then through them. Even the creation will recognize Him in His people and will obey them as it does Him.

    “This is the authority that I had, and it will be given to mankind again. I used my authority to turn Paradise into a wilderness. The Lord will use His authority to turn the wilderness into Paradise again. This is the authority that He is giving to His people. I used mine wrongly and death came. When His authority is used in righteousness, it will release life. Be careful how you use authority. With authority comes responsibility. You, too, can use it wrongly, but you will not do this if you love. As all of heaven knows, ‘Love never fails.”

    “What about the earthquakes, famines and even wars that you said we would release on the earth? Won’t this be releasing death?” I asked.

    “All the death that is coming upon the world is being allowed to prepare the way for life. Everything that is sown must be reaped, unless those who have sown evil call upon the cross in Spirit and truth. The army of the cross is about to be released, and it will march in the power of the cross, carrying the offer of mercy to all. Those who reject the mercy of God have rejected life.”

    “That is a great responsibility,” I said. “How do we know when they have rejected His mercy?” “Disobedience brought death, and obedience will bring life. When I walked with God, He taught me His ways. As I walked with Him, I began to know Him. You must walk with God and learn of His ways. Your authority is His authority, and you must be one with Him in order to use it. The weapons of His army are not carnal—they are spiritual and much more powerful than any earthly weapons. Your most powerful weapons are truth and love. Even the final judgment of destruction is God’s love extended in mercy.........http://www.politicalforum.com/religion-philosophy/390023-message-adam-all-mankind-rick-joyner.html
     
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    Your killing me.

    A Human Being is a result of billions of years of evolution and out bodies have evolved specifically to live on THIS PLANET.

    Human's are NOT the only intelligent space faring race in the Universe.

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    i know that we are not the only intelligent race in universe for a very long time. i am not talking about universe, Human were given authority over THE EARTH. which mean not even aliens who are1000 time more intelligent than
    us could rule the earth, no matter what they say. Authority doesn't come from intelligence and advanced weapons, it comes from the True Creator, the higheset authority of the universe , if we human didn't willingly give away our authority, the aliens have no chance to rule the earth, no matter how advance they are. Adam lost that for human, Jesus came to take it back for us. In bible, the saints will reign with Christ as kings and priests. That's one of our promise from God.
     
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    This is an exceptionally insightful answer!

    What would happen if 70% of humanity voted to give much greater authority to aliens / ufo's?????????
     
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    But...... I personally do believe that eventually genetic research will indicate that something astonishingly significant happened to our ancestors less than ten thousand years ago..... (linear time)?!

    AboveAlpha..... as you know...... I don't argue with you a whole lot..... because I basically agree with a huge percentage of what you write.

    You and I seemed to be even on the same page regarding Mr. Mitt Romney as a potential 2016 USA Presidential candidate.

    I just made a post related to that topic that I think you will find interesting............ (I am starting to like The Donald more and more and more).....

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=437467&page=5&p=1065903577#post1065903577
     
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    Dennis....NOTHING would thrill me more than for geneticists to find so GOD in the details.

    They have not.....unless people consider GOD Nature as I do.

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    Thank You. The answer is revealled to me by the Holy Spirit. I take no credit for it. If majority of humanity give authority to aliens willingly or being deceived willingly to give authority to the aliens, they will eventually take over openly, at least for a time that God will allow. The Bible did prophecize a time of anti-christ government will rule over the earth. If we look at the 5th trumpet, the "locusts", scorpions and Apollyon will come out openly. These are aliens fallen angels beings. Even now, aliens are secretly controlling behind the scene because our leaders give them their authority, but they can't openly come out yet, not until as you mention that the majority give them the authority. My 2 cents.
     
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    It has happened before, like the days of Noah. The fallen aliens beings did take over the earth, until the flood came. This time will happen again, it will stop until the second coming of Jesus Christ.
     
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    You are Religious and that's fine.

    But do not attempt to mix belief with reality.

    There is more going on in the Universe and Multiverse than could EVER be understoood readin any Bible or other ancient human religious text.

    You are but children.

    We are the explorers.

    AA
     
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    If you are truly explorer, i dare you to watch this video about the aliens and make some honest comments
    [video=youtube;ovw-xQJ1M_o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovw-xQJ1M_o[/video]
     
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    I already know that Humans are NOT the only space faring race in the Universe.

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    I already know that you know. This video is NOT about the existance of aliens, it goes a lot deeper, she's an insider but defected. She was in high leverl. She saw different types of aliens in the underground military base and a lot more. She also identify the agenda of the aliens and their true identity.

    [video=youtube;VQDNsvlyZTE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQDNsvlyZTE[/video]
     
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    Yeah....this is all B.S.she is talking about.

    Look.....I know only the tiniest bit about this and the only reason I know this small amount of information is because a long time ago my Team and I had to do a JOB...and I accepted doing this JOB....but in order for us to properly do this JOB it required a NEED TO KNOW.....specific to this issue.

    I wish I never had this need to know but I did and this is how I was filled in on just a tiny part of what is the most ill kept beyond Ultra-Classified and unbelievably compartmentalized....Top-Secret information which EVERYONE knows about but very few believe.

    This woman is just out to make money.

    She knows almost nothing about the reality.

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    I am of the opinion that A. I will eventually attain what we would almost have to term..... "self awareness!"

    I suspect that this has already happened in the near future in what we may eventually find out are other time lines.

    I'm hoping that in this time line...… self aware A. I. may behave in a manner that is more altruistic............… more selfless.........… and play a huge role in altering the future in many positive ways!

    The Helen Wambach Ph. D. and Dr. Chet Snow visions of the future as seen in hypnotic trance by several hundred volunteers is a little scary...… but I am hopeful that the whole thing can be much more positive this time around.


    For an explanation of what I mean by this I quote the O. P. in posts #1 and #2 here:
    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...osophical-implications-multiverse-theory.html

    The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?
     

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