Seattle’s Wage Mandate Kills Restaurants

Do you allow vegetables on the grill? I find they get kinda dirty looking, unlike the photos on " Food Magazine" covers, though I do love grilled onions. I put a whole onion in a piece of foil. Don't cut it or clean it or anything. Just let it cook on the grill, indirectly, in the foil. I do slice off the top and put a pat of butter thereupon. Easy.

 

The thing bout moving to low minimum wage states is that there is higher worker turnover as employees tend to move out to better paying jobs as soon as they are trained, and then the company has to pay to retrain a new worker while loosing productivity, so it ends up being a wash. Big tech companies know this, that's why they stay in nicer areas to retain the best workers.

 

That's not true! When was the last time you couldn't find a place to eat! That's the beauty of it, this country is diverse and so is it's labor market..

 

That makes sense, though I wonder what the statistics say. There are cooks in small towns who have been there 30 years, and waiters in Dallas that change jobs frequently. Are they typical (representative)?

 

Capitalism at it's finest.

 

Yeah, let’s pay the working poor so little that they have to live in their cars just so restaurant customers can save a few bucks on their lattes and lobsters.

 

True, change to stainless cooking surface and clean regularly is about all you can do really.. Or get really fancy and have a smaller grill just for veggies, I've seen guys do that..

 

And it's had minimum wages for decades.

 

Jesus man! It is what is! The leftist have no problem supporting Mexican labor that must PICK and entire field for a set price and most the time the wage is so low it can only be profitable if the ENTIRE family works as a team and the money pooled.. What peeps like you count on is not running in to people like me that know and see the hypocrisy the left exercise in every discussion they put forth

 

It's a dilemma, and not a problem, in my opinion. Problems have solutions. Dilemmas offer a variety of responses sure to displease somebody.

 

No I want the president to help Americans. Aren’t we ALL paying for farmers hurt by his trade policies?

 

All this will kinda be moot point anyway, in 10 years there will be no waiters or servers in any of the places that would hire at minimum wage anyway. All those positions will be automated - whether they would have paid a real person $15 an hour or $5 an hour. It's just simpler not to deal with employees at any wage if they can be replaced with a bot.

 

Ya but never doubled, I don't think?

History of Federal Minimum Wage Rates Under the Fair Labor Standards Act, 1938 - 2009

 

I don't know if this is on topic, but I just discovered that a waitress client of mine earns tips only. There is a floor below which the restaurant must pay to insure she makes a minimum.

 

And why do you think this is the trend

 

Well, I'll be avoiding them as much as possible.

 

It's not bad to have a few areas of the country as test cases. What happens if Seattle raises it's minimum to $15 an hour? Does the city shut down, or do people get used to it and bake it into the process after 6 months? I think we to have test areas for more political decisions so we can better understand unintended consequences ... and we shouldn't be so afraid of change.

 

Another thing is they used to get tips tax free, that not the case now.. I know some places where all the staff split the sum total of the waitress/waiters tips.. Personally I think that blows! Back in the day the servers TIPPED the cooks and bus boys..

 

I agree, BUT in smaller increases! There is a economic reason why federal Min wage hikes are not doubled I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that you know why that hasn't ever happened

 

You'll probably get used to it, and won't give it a second thought. Amazing how quickly we adapt. I probably went to the bank once a week for 20 years - then it became an automated (online) system and I haven't dealt with a real person in a bank in 10 years.

 

Seattle has been slowly raising their minimum wage over the last five years if I remember right. About a dollar a year.

 

Robotics, artificial intelligence, and self-help methodologies are taking over more and more of our daily activities and becoming part of our purchase decisions, gentlemen... and the impact on people's jobs is becoming profound! It is now estimated that half of all human jobs will be GONE in twenty years! Think about that....

Bottom line: we're going to have to put all the unskilled 'bottom-feeders' into their own 'Prole-class' of welfare dependency. They won't have the skills, the education, or the discipline necessary to do anything worthwhile with their lives, so, we must have the government support them and control them, or, we'll have to 'get rid' of them. Do you imagine for one minute that this hasn't crossed the minds of bureaucrats in our "think-tanks"...?

Truth? We already started putting people on permanent welfare handouts of a dozen different kinds during the 'Great Recession' in 2008... and that was just the 'first stage'....

 

I'm not an authority on how quickly or slowly it's gone up.. But for a eatery "NOT all" but for a burger flipper at Carl Jr or Mc Donalds $16.39 seems a lil high to me.. But I'm not a supporter of high paying jobs for labor that usually consist of high schoolers and under twenty one people..

 

Then again, if you look at the history of revolutions and riots, they're usually caused by people under 21 who are making poverty wages. There are always unintended consequences to your decisions.

 

They need to make that higher minimum wage to make ends meet. The government can not keep supporting companies by helping those companies out by also giving out foodstamps. Them companies need to pay more, or make room for companies who employ higher skilled people.